From what I understand Zed is a text editor that is built like a game engine, which I understand is why the marketing copy uses the term "multiplayer" rather than "multiuser". I didn't find other mention of its multiplayer capabilities, which is too bad. Has anyone used it for that purpose, I'm curious as to what the experience was like.
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#22From what I understand Zed is a text editor that is built like a game engine, which I understand is why the marketing copy uses the term "multiplayer" rather than "multiuser". I didn't find other mention of its multiplayer capabilities, which is too bad. Has anyone used it for that purpose, I'm curious as to what the experience was like.
We use them every day at Zed for pair programming, we're rather fond of the features :D
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#23> On macOS, for example, Zed makes direct use of Metal. We have our own shaders, our own renderer, and we put a lot of effort into understanding macOS APIs to get to 120FPS. So they are taking the exact opposite approach of Electron (VS Code). In my mind, if you're someone who types in HN comments in a rage because your text editor (VS Code) eats up 200+ MB ram, you don't get to cry about Zed not being supported on L…
I suppose ideally you'd want it to be written on Linux first, if you're that kinda person - but the market is probably on Mac?
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#24> On macOS, for example, Zed makes direct use of Metal. We have our own shaders, our own renderer, and we put a lot of effort into understanding macOS APIs to get to 120FPS. So they are taking the exact opposite approach of Electron (VS Code). In my mind, if you're someone who types in HN comments in a rage because your text editor (VS Code) eats up 200+ MB ram, you don't get to cry about Zed not being supported on L…
Or… use one of the existing cross platform toolkits that have existed for decades. Text Editors, traditionally, did not require shaders to run or be performant, and not require entire systems worth of RAM.
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#25If you care a lot about Linux support, Lapce is a very promising alternative. Much like Zed, it also is written in Rust with native GPU-based rendering and a shared focus on enabling integration with modern IDE technologies such as LSP servers, tree-sitter parsers and DAP for debugging.
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#26>Yup, that's a native file dialog, but we don't use GTK in Zed and that clearly is GTK — so, how does that work? You'll find the answer in the companion video in which Mikayla and I dive deeper into this and also touch on the question of whether or not we should use GTK or Qt or something else (spoiler: it's complicated). Unless I missed it, the video doesn't actually answer the question. They talk 38:50 onwards abou…
If you want a GTK-based IDE experience there's always GNOME Builder. Like other modern GTK apps, it actually works quite well with custom GTK themes which provide a Win9x-like look (see the chicago95 and b00merang projects on github) if you want the better usability and higher information density that this enables.
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#27Will it run on iGPU?
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#28> On macOS, for example, Zed makes direct use of Metal. We have our own shaders, our own renderer, and we put a lot of effort into understanding macOS APIs to get to 120FPS. So they are taking the exact opposite approach of Electron (VS Code). In my mind, if you're someone who types in HN comments in a rage because your text editor (VS Code) eats up 200+ MB ram, you don't get to cry about Zed not being supported on L…
Someone has to pay for it, time, money, wait for it whatever.
I love working with technical people who ask why and think about more optimal paths.
On the other hand I'll listen to the same folks complain about some random app being stinky (I don't disagree) and wonder "Yeah but you going to pay more for that burrito so that company can hire folks to write it natively on every platform?" No you're not ...
I know our customers at times aren't willing to pay / wait for the optimal path, and their customers aren't, so I get it.
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#29Atom, like most recent editors like VS Code etc., are just clones of Sublime Text with just lots of bloat and JavaScript tech.
I'll just stick to Sublime Text.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
People on the internet expect everything to be spoonfed to them.
Maybe because it works to often..
While it's hard to separate them, derision and mockery aren't considered ad hominem insults to vacuous and lazy commentary.
When you eliminate all human repercussions for acting like a moron, even if it's as small as feeling bad, one should expect to see more idiocy.