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German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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the cookie popups are next level on this site

They are possibly illegal or at least against the law's spirit, which is ironic, because Heise is a relatively well respected publisher among German IT professionals.

Heise changed a lot over the last 2-3 years.

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#22

public means public, if something is paid for by tax money, it should be licensed for public use

I was about to call that the Rundfunkbeitrag is not legally a tax (Steuer), but a tax (Beitrag). For some reason that difference does not seem to exist in English and it translates to the same word??

Tax vs contribution?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are possibly illegal or at least against the law's spirit, which is ironic, because Heise is a relatively well respected publisher among German IT professionals.

I think they are legal because the requirement is that you have an option to "deny all" which they provide. That you must subscribe to the "Pur-Abo" to use this option doesn't matter.

Pay or Okay is illegal

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36720629

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are possibly illegal or at least against the law's spirit, which is ironic, because Heise is a relatively well respected publisher among German IT professionals.

I think they are legal because the requirement is that you have an option to "deny all" which they provide. That you must subscribe to the "Pur-Abo" to use this option doesn't matter.

I am p sure that not too long ago the EU Commission put out a statement regarding Metas "Consent or Pay" and it not being allow and "privacy isn't something you should need to pay for". So I don't think its legal, but I also didn't look too much into it other than some headlines.

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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Here in Israel they just upload most of their TV content to YT, some if it is really good. They used to also stream (and archive) their news stuff, but for some reason I'm getting a 404. (You can look up Kan11 and Kan11news if you are curious, though I don't think they have translations so probably not useful if you don't speak Hebrew).

EDIT: Looks like it is only broken for me in FireFox...

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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post #16

Why was the original title changed? They aren't open sourcing anything today. They are planning to develop new tech which they might open source. But all this still has to be approved by the regulator and the government. That said, I have seen some of the tech from the inside ~10 years ago. The ARD player was developed by a third party and there was no budget to bring this in house. Things might have changed but redo…

The original German article makes it clear it's only about the web front end and some ancillary services, not the video streaming service as such. The latter seems to be mostly Akamai-based.

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

#27
ca. 2000s, I'm getting rid of my TV because if you have one in Germany, you have to pay the fee...

ca. 2003, I'm getting rid of my tv-card which has been free until now, or else I have to pay a fee...

ca. 2010, They've got a website now, if you have a computer or phone, you gotta pay the fee...

great... now I have to pay the fee because I have a github... or what

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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post #27

ca. 2000s, I'm getting rid of my TV because if you have one in Germany, you have to pay the fee... ca. 2003, I'm getting rid of my tv-card which has been free until now, or else I have to pay a fee... ca. 2010, They've got a website now, if you have a computer or phone, you gotta pay the fee... great... now I have to pay the fee because I have a github... or what

You have to pay a fee if you live in Germany. It does not matter what kind of technology you have access to in theory. Thank god the German state does not have to check whether or not you have to own a TV.

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

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post #27

ca. 2000s, I'm getting rid of my TV because if you have one in Germany, you have to pay the fee... ca. 2003, I'm getting rid of my tv-card which has been free until now, or else I have to pay a fee... ca. 2010, They've got a website now, if you have a computer or phone, you gotta pay the fee... great... now I have to pay the fee because I have a github... or what

yes, but it continued:

ca. 2015, you have to pay it anyway, with no exemptions

ca. 2020, they start randomly sending out delay penalties, even if you are late by days, without ever notifying you of the due dates

ca. 2022, they sneakily shift the 3-months fee forward, first you can pay it at the end of the period, then in the middle month, then soon at the beginning

meanwhile, the programming gets worse and worse every year. Then they get surprised if people vote for parties which promise to abolish it.

Re: German public broadcasters open source their streaming platforms

#30

Not exactly the most ambitious project, is it. Besides the fact that both ARD and ZDF majorly struggle with the content itself in terms of quality and availability (it's not an archive, everything disappears quickly). One day they'll figure out this internet neuland thing ;)

Unfortunately, not making archived content available longer is due to the legal obligations that the public broadcasters face and that the German Government and the governments of the federal states themselves have put in place because of anti-competitive fear mongering.
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