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Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by logtempo »

prions wrote: post #11

It looks really interesting, but as an experienced climber I'm not sure if just watching a video of my avatar climbing would really help with skill acquisition. Also, this claims that the wall type or video quality doesn't matter, but I have a hard time understanding how the model would be able to understand that a small crimp could possibly be dual textured and therefore has only a few specific ways of approaching i…

I don't see the shape of the holds being a big problem. With some help from indoor companies and hold makers, figuring out which hold model is on the wall should be possible.

As for the usefullness of the software, I'm sceptical too as it don't really solve a problem. But maybe I'm not seeing it and it could be good for beginners :) A good improvement would be adding a comparison between you and the model in term of body position and fluidity of movements.

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by justinnhli »

I have had a similar idea for the past few years: less an AI model that takes in a photo and generates a video, more a movement planning tool given a 3D model of the wall.

Echoing some of the other comments, I think it would be more interesting to not just see a single avatar climbing the problem, but to see many possible approaches to the same problem, even for climbers with the same body type. This way, even skilled climbers that are stuck on a problem can consider alternate beta/techniques that they may find easier to execute.

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by goodmattg »

syntaxing wrote: post #14
goodmattg wrote: post #10

A few thoughts as I've done academic research & built products in this area: - if you're using SMPL body parameters this will have to stay research / open-source - is this leveraging some sort of monocular depth estimation to estimate the wall in 3D space? Also, do you have assumed camera parameters, or is that also estimated? If there isn't any depth information, this will be highly inaccurate on any cliff routes, b…

Not OP, but why does it have to be open sourced? Copy left license?

commercial license - the research group formed a corporate entity that licenses the body model and all derived work (SMPL-X, etc.): https://meshcapade.com/SMPL

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by _fs »

kettunen wrote: post #18

One of the most fun part of climbing is the problem-solving aspect of it. Figuring your way to get up the wall/boulder. Why would you want to get rid of that?

Do you enjoy climbing with others? Personally, I enjoy seeing the different beta on a climb, especially between different body types. It is interesting seeing unique approaches to the same problem.

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by hacksoi »

kettunen wrote: post #18

One of the most fun part of climbing is the problem-solving aspect of it. Figuring your way to get up the wall/boulder. Why would you want to get rid of that?

You can use it after you do the climb to see if there is a more optimal solution.

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by Snackchez »

prions wrote: post #11

It looks really interesting, but as an experienced climber I'm not sure if just watching a video of my avatar climbing would really help with skill acquisition. Also, this claims that the wall type or video quality doesn't matter, but I have a hard time understanding how the model would be able to understand that a small crimp could possibly be dual textured and therefore has only a few specific ways of approaching i…

What could be interesting is if you could compare your attempts to the avatar climbing and receiving feedback afterwards. This would effectively be a step up from simply recording your send attempts.

Re: Show HN: AI climbing coach – visualize how to climb any route based on your body

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Post by alexcaza »

Cool idea! My friends and I have chatted about building something similar, though with a coaching focus. Specifically for use with spray walls/kilterboards/etc.

It could be interesting to combine something like this with an analysis tool. Analyse a climbers attempts or successes and compare it to the beta figured out by the model. Then offer tips on body positioning or technique based on your weight/height/strength.

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