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Desert greening is transforming dust and sand into farmable soil (2023)

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Re: Desert greening is transforming dust and sand into farmable soil (2023)

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Can we thank CO2 a little bit here?

No, desertification is still an ongoing issue around the world. This is planting trees, building structures to hold water and adding clay or cellulose to the soil. So definitely no evidence of any benefit from CO2 slowing the expansion or creation of deserts.

We know the Sahara was once greener, and we know that we are currently leaving an ice age. If co2 is warming the planet, it's not such a stretch to believe that we'll be returning to the conditions where a green Sahara existed, especially when more heat = more evaporation = more rain, as well as shifting climate systems.

It's a shame the current climate narrative is so negative, when there's potential life and opportunity to be had, which could stem the flow of people feeling the need to uproot themselves and be refugees on other sides of the planet.

Re: Desert greening is transforming dust and sand into farmable soil (2023)

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I live in a tropical zone over 100F year round and use shade cloth to keep grass and plants green. Wonder if that could be used to cover big areas in the desert?

There are places where tropical jungle forms a thick canopy that shelters plants growing in lower part of the canopy. The layers of canopy helps keep the humidity, thus forming a microclimate. A good example is the moringa forest someone grew in their Phoenix, AZ front yard -- a city built in the lower Sonoran desert. Moringas are heat-seeking, drought-tolerant, fast-growing, and that guy's front-yard developed a can…

I lived here. Old man made this place long ago, never really raising rates like everyone else as things exploded. Reasonably priced, utilities included, well maintained. It’s a forest in Phoenix with many secret gardens , water fountains, items of interest. Yes a forest in Phoenix. It was a great place. https://www.rent.com/arizona/phoenix-apartments/forest-park-...

Re: Desert greening is transforming dust and sand into farmable soil (2023)

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Andrew Millison has a video series that includes restoration of wasteland in India. Before you accumulate organics, you change how surface water is captured and absorbed into the ground. It can be as simple as shallow trenches or holes (no deeper than a few feet) to slow down water. That then supports the trees, which starts the ecological succession to reverse desertification. Sometimes, you don't even need to seed…

Do you have some links to that?

https://www.youtube.com/@amillison
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