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Re: The drinking fountain button

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It has. Which part of Europe are you talking about?

I've been to Germany, the Netherlands, Scandinavia, Spain and France. Only France had a few in touristy beach areas. The total low is Germany, where the whole country has only 1300 (given ~100 cities with >100k ppl, that is just a ridiculous 13 per large city): https://www.bmuv.de/pressemitteilung/staedte-und-gemeinden-m...

You sure you checked all of Scandinavia?

Re: The drinking fountain button

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Eco/Green paradise? Plastic isn't the only poison, the USSR was happy to create plenty of industrial poison - Lake Karachay is a great example. "The former Soviet Union was the world's second largest producer of harmful emissions. Total emissions in the USSR in 1988 were about 79% of the US total. Considering that the Soviet GNP was only some 54% of that of the USA, this means that the Soviet Union generated 1.5 time…

And before someone says Lake Karachay is an extreme example because of the nuclear arms race and secrecy: Take the vanishing Aral Sea, the oil and gas leaks, or the "there is no thermostat, just a radiator on 100% and an open window" heating system.

> there is no thermostat, just a radiator on 100% and an open window

Nothing wrong about it as water temperature in pipes is regulated based on the temperature outside if not at building-level (not uncommon) but at least at heat-station providing hot water to several buildings.

Re: The drinking fountain button

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It amazes me that 1960s Moscow had drinking fountains with shared glasses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F68bbzOOOdY&t=1850s What were they thinking?

These are not fountains but glorified watercoolers with sparkling water and, sometimes, lemonade. Most of the time they were not free although very cheap: 1 copeck. These survived up to the 1995, several years after the fall. And yes, most glasses have never been stolen. Shared glasses were quite safe because every machine had special button to clean the glass with pressurized technical water (several calibrated jets…

>It’s only after the fall of the Soviet Union that shit with plastic poured into. As well with the fall of recycling, morals, etc.

Soviet Union was green not because of morals, but because it was poor and couldn't afford single use packages. I remember when Nutella entered my country, the empty Nutella jars were washed, kept and used as glasses for drinking - because buying new glasses was hard or expensive.

>And yes, most glasses have never been stolen.

I assume that's only because they were chained and in crowded places. Whole eastern Europe of that time was a thief paradise with casual theft almost completely normalized. (source: I am from Eastern Europe)

Re: The drinking fountain button

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been to Germany, the Netherlands, Scandinavia, Spain and France. Only France had a few in touristy beach areas. The total low is Germany, where the whole country has only 1300 (given ~100 cities with >100k ppl, that is just a ridiculous 13 per large city): https://www.bmuv.de/pressemitteilung/staedte-und-gemeinden-m...

You sure you checked all of Scandinavia?

Mostly Oslo and Stockholm.

Re: The drinking fountain button

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It amazes me that 1960s Moscow had drinking fountains with shared glasses: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F68bbzOOOdY&t=1850s What were they thinking?

These are not fountains but glorified watercoolers with sparkling water and, sometimes, lemonade. Most of the time they were not free although very cheap: 1 copeck. These survived up to the 1995, several years after the fall. And yes, most glasses have never been stolen. Shared glasses were quite safe because every machine had special button to clean the glass with pressurized technical water (several calibrated jets…

"The former Soviet Union was the world's second largest producer of harmful emissions."

Some paradise.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0959378094...

Re: The drinking fountain button

#26
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And before someone says Lake Karachay is an extreme example because of the nuclear arms race and secrecy: Take the vanishing Aral Sea, the oil and gas leaks, or the "there is no thermostat, just a radiator on 100% and an open window" heating system.

> there is no thermostat, just a radiator on 100% and an open window Nothing wrong about it as water temperature in pipes is regulated based on the temperature outside if not at building-level (not uncommon) but at least at heat-station providing hot water to several buildings.

Cannot decide if sarcasm. If so: good one :)

Re: The drinking fountain button

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The headline is click bait, nothing about it is misunderstood. I generally enjoy esoterica, but can’t believe I just read a whole article that amounts to “those buttons are buttons”.

They’re not, though. They’re button-activated valves with a fairly complicated flow path, integrated screen, extremely high lifecycle, and pressure regulation to deal with a wide range (one spec I saw said 30-90 psig) of water pressure, all while being contained in a single cartridge for easy replacement.

The details of everyday items are fascinating.

Re: The drinking fountain button

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post #25
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are not fountains but glorified watercoolers with sparkling water and, sometimes, lemonade. Most of the time they were not free although very cheap: 1 copeck. These survived up to the 1995, several years after the fall. And yes, most glasses have never been stolen. Shared glasses were quite safe because every machine had special button to clean the glass with pressurized technical water (several calibrated jets…

"The former Soviet Union was the world's second largest producer of harmful emissions." Some paradise. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0959378094...

Second account to post this link: say what you will about the bots and — god forbid — someone saying something good about soviet union :-)

Re: The drinking fountain button

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I wish Europe had any drinking fountains. Even extremely-high-traffic public areas such as airports and train stations have but a few or (usually) none.

Public toilets too. I just don't understand how all these people are walking around all day without being able to drink or use the toilet. Fair enough if it's acceptable to go behind a bush or something, but apparently it isn't.

You can pay for both. And most people are not walking around all day, just traveling between two places.

Re: The drinking fountain button

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post #17
post #16

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Eco/Green paradise? Plastic isn't the only poison, the USSR was happy to create plenty of industrial poison - Lake Karachay is a great example. "The former Soviet Union was the world's second largest producer of harmful emissions. Total emissions in the USSR in 1988 were about 79% of the US total. Considering that the Soviet GNP was only some 54% of that of the USA, this means that the Soviet Union generated 1.5 time…

I wasn’t talking about industrial but your usual Ivan. Just think about how many garbage is produced by a family every day. As for your article, I don’t have access to the PDF, so I cannot verify it. The place I grew up sometimes I could see Elbrus even though it is almost 300 km away. That’s for air pollution. > in the early 1990s the air pollution became an issue of great public attention This as well may be the co…

Due to the curvature of the earth, it's unlikely you were able to see anything 300km away.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_distance_observations#Gro...

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