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The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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That doesn't make it a scam though, just a waste of money. A scam would be something like, you order it and what turns up is a photo of the device with a QR code on the back linking to a download for the app.

the line isn't that clear cut. broken promises that create a sale could certainly be construed as 'scammy'.

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Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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I actually like the idea of a small, stand-alone gadget like this. The battery life should definitely be better - if a decent phone can last a day or two, I'd expect a device like this to be able to last much longer than that.

But I can't see how they can sell this device without a monthly subscription? Even if you don't make many AI queries, you're still consuming resources on their "rabbithole" web services. If the company behind Rabbit closes down, I'm guessing the devices will become near-useless? Although, knowing that it runs on Android gives hope for hackers to extend and modify the devices.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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I actually like the idea of a small, stand-alone gadget like this. The battery life should definitely be better - if a decent phone can last a day or two, I'd expect a device like this to be able to last much longer than that. But I can't see how they can sell this device without a monthly subscription? Even if you don't make many AI queries, you're still consuming resources on their "rabbithole" web services. If the…

Re the battery: a new software update came out today that they claim will improve battery life 5x. I don't know if that'll pan out or not; that's what their notes said.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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Using Android doesn't make it a scam.

The scam is they are selling it as anything other than "phone with fewer features"

Are Android tablets a scam too?

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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the same is true of oculus quest devices. the choice of under the hood operating system really only matters to developers, otherwise why wouldn't you build on aosp?

the real value is in how it functions in the life of the users. if they put a new llm based shell on top and built a new app ecosystem for it that makes users happy, then they've done something useful!

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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I ordered one since it cost exactly as much as a 1 year stand-alone perplexity license that it comes with. I don’t know how they can possibly make money with this but i’m looking forward to having a new toy on my desk and I really like the teenage engineering vibes of it.

> i’m looking forward to having a new toy on my desk and I really like the teenage engineering vibes of it.

I want more companies to try hardware!

To quote the title,

> a thing that should just be an app, is just an Android app

Except the company doesn't own the hardware for distribution by being an Android app! People want developers to be subservient and taxed forever, as if Google and Apple own all of non-desktop computing. It's an unfortunate place we've arrived at.

We need many more hardware options. The cellphone duopoly is harming and taxing innovation.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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That makes me feel better about the whole project. If they were wasting their time developing a new OS from scratch instead of working on the programs running on it, I'd think they're nuts.

I bought an R1 during the first pre-order and it arrived a couple days ago. In it's current form, it's not the AI from the movie "Her" that's going to manage your life for you. It's neat. It's a cool little toy that does interesting things and has potential. It definitely needs work: before today's software update, I couldn't type all the ASCII characters in my home's Wi-Fi password. I still like playing with it and I hope it improves.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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The scam is that the hardware is unnecessary, expensive, and strictly worse than just using your phone.

That doesn't make it a scam though, just a waste of money. A scam would be something like, you order it and what turns up is a photo of the device with a QR code on the back linking to a download for the app.

The scam is that it uses Playwright and no LLM actually exists.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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I ordered one since it cost exactly as much as a 1 year stand-alone perplexity license that it comes with. I don’t know how they can possibly make money with this but i’m looking forward to having a new toy on my desk and I really like the teenage engineering vibes of it.

Same and same. I don't know if I'd have bought a year of Perplexity, but the R1 plus that year for $200 was worth it to me for the experimental nature of it.

Re: The Rabbit R1 is probably running Android and is powered by an Android app

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I ordered one since it cost exactly as much as a 1 year stand-alone perplexity license that it comes with. I don’t know how they can possibly make money with this but i’m looking forward to having a new toy on my desk and I really like the teenage engineering vibes of it.

> i’m looking forward to having a new toy on my desk and I really like the teenage engineering vibes of it. I want more companies to try hardware! To quote the title, > a thing that should just be an app, is just an Android app Except the company doesn't own the hardware for distribution by being an Android app! People want developers to be subservient and taxed forever, as if Google and Apple own all of non-desktop…

Yeah Google not allowing 3rd party apps to be used as the voice assistant is 100% reason enough to release as hardware. I don't want to unlock my phone and type and click buttons just to ask about a task I'm working on.
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