Recent Tesla AEB (Auto-Emergency-Braking) is pretty good, the Euro NCAP tests show:
https://twitter.com/AIDRIVR/status/1782155551948058755
I wish NHTSA published videos like the Euro NCAP.
All Cars Sold in the US Will Soon Have to Be Able to Automatically Avoid a Crash
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#22Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.
The reason cars are so large today is because of safety laws
There are still small cars today sold that meet the safety laws. The prevalence of large vehicles is primarily from consumer choice.
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#23Article says, > Unsurprisingly, automakers are unsure whether this is possible I'm in the same camp. I don't think technology will become mature enough in the stated timeline to make sure this is actually possible without creating a huge ton of false positive triggers (phantom braking).
Our Toyota Corolla hybrid has successfully done this and mitigated a collision at 100 km/hr (60 mi/hr) once or twice with only a handful of non serious false positives (i.e. when turning a corner that has cars parked on it or people crossing the road nearby) in the 4 years we've owned it.
We live in Australia so we regularly do a cross country 1800km+ trip to travel between the cities, and there are hundreds of overpasses. I don't recall ever getting phantom braking during one of these trips.
I would highly rate Toyota safety sense as one of the best ADAS on the market despite being not very sophisticated in comparison to i.e. Tesla.
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#24Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.
"Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" applies here. Good luck convincing people to give up their big cars. Or to double their trip length by driving half the speed. This is something that law makers can actually achieve.
I can't see why the insurance industry hasn't done more to "get people to give up their big cars" - SUVs, in particular. They clearly have the actuarial data showing how much damage those do.
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#25Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.
The reason cars are so large today is because of safety laws
Environmental laws too. small pickups don’t exist any more because they can’t meet the MPG requirements for their body size. Giant 3/4 Tons on the other hand? Take two.
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#26Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.
The reason cars are so large today is because of safety laws
Yes, the exemplary example of auto safety, the 2024 Ford F-150. No other way to do it safely, gotta be the F150 body
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#27Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.
A law that prevents any FWD vehicle from going over 90 MPH, or offering significant insurance discounts, would go a long way towards reducing fatalities. There is no reason for any casual motorist to be going 91+MPH on surface streets or highways.
… empty and well paved country roads are a thing
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#28Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.
The reason cars are so large today is because of safety laws
Only very indirectly. It's actually because of a 2012 rule that kinda-sorta-normalizes emissions credits by vehicle size, creating a perverse incentive for manufacturers: https://www.resources.org/common-resources/how-much-do-regul...
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#29Laws to make cars smaller and drive slower will do 100x more to make crashes less deadly than fancy electronic gizmos. Not to mention all these electronics make the car much more expensive and harder to repair.
The reason cars are so large today is because of safety laws
It is a combination of factors: fuel standards (CAFE), consumers favoring larger cars, SUVs being safer than sedans in frontal collisions, limited choice for smaller cars as companies stop making them due to dropping demand, and yes, safety laws in part too.
https://www.thedrive.com/news/small-cars-are-getting-huge-ar...
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
"Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good" applies here. Good luck convincing people to give up their big cars. Or to double their trip length by driving half the speed. This is something that law makers can actually achieve.
I can't see why the insurance industry hasn't done more to "get people to give up their big cars" - SUVs, in particular. They clearly have the actuarial data showing how much damage those do.
If they have the data and you don’t, why do you assume you’re in the right? Insurance isn’t interested in damage, they’re interested in liability, which is much more closely tied to personal injury than property damage. And it’d be impossible to claim SUV’s don’t help protect the individual most at risk of costing the insurance company money.