Just yesterday, I bought a raw milk, aged cheese. Now I wonder if it is reasonably safe to consume them in light of this development.
Cats suffer H5N1 brain infections, blindness, death after drinking raw milk
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People see the risk as small and hear that it is great enough to be worth the risk. How big the risk actually is or how great it is I can't say. But it's not that dissimilar to regular people eating unhealthy junk food all the time.
Different risks. I'd say you were extremely unlikely to get listeria from McDonalds - the very industrial standardisation that makes it bland also makes it processes out the pathogens. Acute risks vs the long term.
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#25The whole raw milk thing boggles my mind. It’s hardly a secret that it’s dangerous yet people do it anyway
I say this as someone who shares this mindset. It is as shocking to me that you would queue up for a dangerous vaccine, support mass 3rd world immigration, consume slop full of soy and seed oils, etc as it no doubt is to you that I would be an openly racist anti-vaxer who gets his steaks and eggs straight from the farm (and would my milk too, if it wasn't illegal here).
It doesn't help at all that the champion of pasteurization was one Lord Rothschild, whose only two addresses to UK parliament were for Zionism and the prohibition of raw milk. If one is considered a program of genocidal supremacist hatred of my people, it's a very tough sell that the other is supposed to help keep me safe and healthy.
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#26Just yesterday, I bought a raw milk, aged cheese. Now I wonder if it is reasonably safe to consume them in light of this development.
Really depends on where you buy it. Some real cheese maker, or some random crappy industrial brand? In France we eat cheese made from raw milk all the time, it's almost never a problem, it's so rare that when it does it makes the news and products are recalled.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Different risks. I'd say you were extremely unlikely to get listeria from McDonalds - the very industrial standardisation that makes it bland also makes it processes out the pathogens. Acute risks vs the long term.
Yes, but the thought process of the risk taker is similar.
(very much the inconvenient option for me given the law: http://rawmilk.simkin.co.uk/what-is-raw-milk.html )
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#28The whole raw milk thing boggles my mind. It’s hardly a secret that it’s dangerous yet people do it anyway
As far as I can tell, it's in the same weird "purity" deal as anti-vax, anti-mask, and various other kinds of orthorexia. As well as being aligned with anti-helmet and anti-seatbelt campaigners: seemingly they want it because it's dangerous. It makes them feel good to reject objective standards of safety and substitute their own specialness. After all, they're the protagonist, they can't die in the middle of the show…
Disclaimer: I drink pasteurized milk like everyone else because raw milk is expensive and hard to source. When I was a child I drank raw milk in glass bottles sourced from a local dairy since I grew up in a dairy town. I suffered no ill effects.
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#30Just yesterday, I bought a raw milk, aged cheese. Now I wonder if it is reasonably safe to consume them in light of this development.
Cheese is a little different because the aging process kills some pathogens. But I'd check with your local food safety authorities. Edit: SciAm says a qualified "mostly safe": https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/is-raw-milk-chees...