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Aux.computer: An Alternative to the Nix Ecosystem

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Re: Aux.computer: An Alternative to the Nix Ecosystem

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Why now call it Snowflakes given: Kindness The project should be welcoming and a safe place for people to participate. I'm puzzled how overly sensitive the new generation of humans is! This the the opposite of stoicism and resilience!

how old are you, nikita, 12?

Re: Aux.computer: An Alternative to the Nix Ecosystem

#22
post #3

I know of Nix, but I know little about the project itself. Can someone shed some light on the reasons for forking?

There's a lot of issues right now around communication, moderation, and community. - One of the release managers (myself) was banned/suspended [1] - Attempts to assert control on the board's decision-making by proxy group [2] - Use of social media to target individuals [3] 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1cd5fod/in_case_im_u... 2: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/objection-to-minority-represen... 3: https://g…

As much as I think they overreacted when banning you, it also feels like an overreaction to fork that soon.

I hope a compromise will be found, and that you'll be back on NixOS as soon as possible!

Re: Aux.computer: An Alternative to the Nix Ecosystem

#23

Who is behind this fork?

Hi, I (Jake Hamilton) am. Though, this is not an effort that can be undertaken by one person. My goal is publishing this page was to create a set of values, goals, and a roadmap for people (like myself) who would otherwise be leaving the Nix ecosystem due to its shortcomings. These values, goals, and roadmap can then be used for alignment to actually make it a reality. I worried that if these things weren't specified…

The name, the logo, the values and many important strategic decisions seems to have already been decided, before a public channel of communication has been created.

Was this created by just you, or is there already a team?

Re: Aux.computer: An Alternative to the Nix Ecosystem

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I believe that it's currently best to wait until everyone has had a chance to cool down a bit and then see what state the original Nix project is in. There has certainly been a lot of drama and I don't think it's just a vocal minority that's making the news here, but I also believe that long running open source projects like Nix are pretty resilient. Some folks will leave, some will come back, constructive changes can be made and hopefully we'll all be able to reconcile as much of our differences as is necessary to resume work and collaboration.

Re: Aux.computer: An Alternative to the Nix Ecosystem

#25
post #19
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, everyone should be walking across burning coals barefoot every day to get to work, let alone volunteer their time to an open source project.

Maybe they should find another project to contribute to. And, yeah, this is how we dance in Bulgaria [0] - on embers! [0]: https://nestinari.bg/en/history/

Why would they find another project? Are you under the assumption these are not established members of the Nix community complaining, but some "invaders" as alluded to in the RFC 175 supplements? Because that's untrue. Many have been putting up with the deteriorating situation for years, very stoic, but not healthy or fun.

Re: Aux.computer: An Alternative to the Nix Ecosystem

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post #19
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, everyone should be walking across burning coals barefoot every day to get to work, let alone volunteer their time to an open source project.

Maybe they should find another project to contribute to. And, yeah, this is how we dance in Bulgaria [0] - on embers! [0]: https://nestinari.bg/en/history/

you're complaining that they literally started another project to contribute to.

Re: Aux.computer: An Alternative to the Nix Ecosystem

#27
post #3

I know of Nix, but I know little about the project itself. Can someone shed some light on the reasons for forking?

There's a lot of issues right now around communication, moderation, and community. - One of the release managers (myself) was banned/suspended [1] - Attempts to assert control on the board's decision-making by proxy group [2] - Use of social media to target individuals [3] 1: https://www.reddit.com/r/NixOS/comments/1cd5fod/in_case_im_u... 2: https://discourse.nixos.org/t/objection-to-minority-represen... 3: https://g…

Wow, is #3 disingenuous.

"Use of social media to target individuals" sounds like some internet personality doxxed you, or sicced their followers on you.

But it looks like... someone linked your own public comments from a Nix Discourse thread, and then the board rejected your bid to join them?

Apparently this Jon Ringer guy has it out for you, as much as anyone else. He keeps sabotaging you and putting words in your mouth. /s

Reading your comments, I'm continually reminded of MLK's Letter from Birmingham Jail, "Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will." It's clear you still haven't educated yourself on the issues around representation, and the distortions of "meritocracy" in a world where we didn't all get to race from the same starting line.

Re: Aux.computer: An Alternative to the Nix Ecosystem

#28

Who is behind this fork?

Hi, I (Jake Hamilton) am. Though, this is not an effort that can be undertaken by one person. My goal is publishing this page was to create a set of values, goals, and a roadmap for people (like myself) who would otherwise be leaving the Nix ecosystem due to its shortcomings. These values, goals, and roadmap can then be used for alignment to actually make it a reality. I worried that if these things weren't specified…

The Microsoft GitHub requirement is the only reason that I do not contribute to NixPkgs except by sending a mail to a maintainer sometimes. Everything I package stays in my own flakes. If a community arose that hosts its own repo or is hosted at e.g. CodeBerg, I would contribute.

Re: Aux.computer: An Alternative to the Nix Ecosystem

#30
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi, I (Jake Hamilton) am. Though, this is not an effort that can be undertaken by one person. My goal is publishing this page was to create a set of values, goals, and a roadmap for people (like myself) who would otherwise be leaving the Nix ecosystem due to its shortcomings. These values, goals, and roadmap can then be used for alignment to actually make it a reality. I worried that if these things weren't specified…

The name, the logo, the values and many important strategic decisions seems to have already been decided, before a public channel of communication has been created. Was this created by just you, or is there already a team?

This page was created by me. I have tried to capture what I feel are important values that are hopefully shared by others who are leaving or have left Nix. With the values, goals, and roadmap clearly stated, others can join to contribute. Part of the reason I felt this was important was to make sure that anyone who would want to contribute did not feel like there would be some rug pull moment. I wanted to outline exactly what was going to happen and how it was going to be better than what we have currently with Nix so that we can build that vision together.
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