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Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism

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Re: Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism

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I was just in Munich the other day - couldn’t even move because there were so many tourists. I think tour groups need to have a hefty fee attached.

Why would anyone be a tourist in Munich? Seems utterly bizarre.

Who WOULDNT want to be a tourist at the Deutsches Museum? I once got stuck in the mining exhibit there for a week.

Re: Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism

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Probably enroute to Neuschwanstein and the old town / shopping is something to do.

Unimaginable to me to be honest. Neuschwanstein is also literally a fake castle.

It was a delightful walk up hill and great views. Other people enjoy different things than you.

Re: Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism

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They're lying about the goal is what I suppose they meant, and I tend to agree.

> lying about the goal is what I suppose they meant, and I tend to agree You think a city official needed to scrounge up some funding and came up with this, a highly visible and obstructive method, instead of raising it indirectly?

No. Locals were demanding officials do something against the rampant overtourism, so they needed to act precisely in a highly visible and obstructive way.

But the main goal was of course to assure whatever they did wouldn't jeopardise tourism as the city's main revenue stream.

5€ is equivalent to a short-term parking fee and won't deter many visitors, except a few that wouldn't have been valuable to the city anyway. It won't make a dent into the actual overtourism problem.

Re: Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism

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post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was just in Munich the other day - couldn’t even move because there were so many tourists. I think tour groups need to have a hefty fee attached.

Why would anyone be a tourist in Munich? Seems utterly bizarre.

Architecture? Beer Putsch enthusiasts? /s

It’s a beautiful city. I’d love to go back.

Re: Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lying about the goal is what I suppose they meant, and I tend to agree You think a city official needed to scrounge up some funding and came up with this, a highly visible and obstructive method, instead of raising it indirectly?

No. Locals were demanding officials do something against the rampant overtourism, so they needed to act precisely in a highly visible and obstructive way. But the main goal was of course to assure whatever they did wouldn't jeopardise tourism as the city's main revenue stream. 5€ is equivalent to a short-term parking fee and won't deter many visitors, except a few that wouldn't have been valuable to the city anyway.…

> the main goal was of course to assure whatever they did wouldn't jeopardise tourism as the city's main revenue stream

The whole point is there are boatloads of tourists who contribute nothing to the local economy.

> 5€ is equivalent to a short-term parking fee and won't deter many visitors, except a few that wouldn't have been valuable to the city anyway

This is a lot of cruise ship visitors to Venice. I agree the rate is set too low. But that’s different from judging the primary motivation as a money grab.

Re: Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism

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I'd think only something like ten times that amount would deter a significant number of visitors _which is the goal_.

yeah they could easily just say "foreign tourists pay 50euro per day" on high traffic days and call it good.

Re: Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism

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I'd think only something like ten times that amount would deter a significant number of visitors _which is the goal_.

Obviously that's not the goal but just to add an additiional revenue stream for the city while lying the local plebs straight in the face.

That is the goal. The price increases, cost of living increases and the gentrification that is brought by tourism in certain places in Europe are so high that "tourist go home" became a common graffiti and the locals are livid.

https://www.thestar.com.my/lifestyle/travel/2023/10/09/fed-u...

“The Brits and Germans are the worst, they make our lives hell here,” the pensioner yells, after a group of young tourists fails to move out of the way on the narrow pavement. Her insults are met with cheers from a group of elderly gentleman sitting in a nearby café.

“I spit on the scum from my balcony,” one of them says to the jeers of his friends.

The beef that the young have with tourists is more life-affecting: They get gentrified out of being able to rent or buy housing in the neighborhoods that they grew up in. Either through housing moving to become airbnbs or through rich foreigners buying out houses. The latter relates more to golden visas and digital nomads though. Ah, and yes, 'digital nomad go home' also started to appear as a graffiti as well.

Re: Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism

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post #4
post #2

I'd think only something like ten times that amount would deter a significant number of visitors _which is the goal_.

I was just in Munich the other day - couldn’t even move because there were so many tourists. I think tour groups need to have a hefty fee attached.

I have this same thought whenever I'm in traffic. They need to figure out how to get all these people out of my way.

Re: Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism

#29
post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would anyone be a tourist in Munich? Seems utterly bizarre.

Who WOULDNT want to be a tourist at the Deutsches Museum? I once got stuck in the mining exhibit there for a week.

Are you also a fan of beer barrels from the American Revolution era?

Re: Venice tests a 5-euro fee for day-trippers as the city grapples with overtourism

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably enroute to Neuschwanstein and the old town / shopping is something to do.

Unimaginable to me to be honest. Neuschwanstein is also literally a fake castle.

Looks real enough in the pics
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