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Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa

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Re: Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa

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The point about Facebook is well made. I'm glad that Facebook have taken the decision (thus far at least) not to overload their core UX with JS effects. This means that it is nearly always very easy to use FB. By contrast, it always feels like it takes twice as long as it should to tweet and use G+, because the UX has been designed to be "beautiful." And I'm in Europe - I can only imagine it is an order of magnitude…

clearly you don't have timeline yet...

Re: Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa

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post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article is actually about Zimbabwe, not South Africa. I think what he means is that the title is excessively general "Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa". It's a bit like writing about the trouble you are having getting a fast Internet connection in Guatemala and then saying "North America" has connectivity issues. Different countries in Africa are very different from each other. It's like generalizing a…

Fair enough, I agree that the author was guilty of the kind of continent-wide generalisations that's always misleading. I was just a bit confused by the parent post's reference to South Africa, which was a bit off-topic as the author is from Zimbabwe. My assumption was that there were two possible explanations, that the post's author confused South Africa with Southern Africa, or that they considered South Africa to…

I'm the author.

Indeed Zimbabwe is not representative of all Africa. However, Zimbabwe actually has better internet that most African countries. At least it's in the top 10 of 54 countries on the continent according to Ookla (http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/)

If Zimbabwe's internet is bad enough to cause users problems loading Google+, It's likely worse in the majority of the countries on the continent.

Generalising therefore was not meant to paint the picture that all Africa is the same, but that Google (if they read this) need to have a strategy that takes into account the poor internet quality the bulk of Africa has.

Re: Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa

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post #22
post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough, I agree that the author was guilty of the kind of continent-wide generalisations that's always misleading. I was just a bit confused by the parent post's reference to South Africa, which was a bit off-topic as the author is from Zimbabwe. My assumption was that there were two possible explanations, that the post's author confused South Africa with Southern Africa, or that they considered South Africa to…

I'm the author. Indeed Zimbabwe is not representative of all Africa. However, Zimbabwe actually has better internet that most African countries. At least it's in the top 10 of 54 countries on the continent according to Ookla ( http://www.netindex.com/download/allcountries/ ) If Zimbabwe's internet is bad enough to cause users problems loading Google+, It's likely worse in the majority of the countries on the continen…

Thanks for responding.

I do understand the point you were making, but unfortunately it does create the potential for your point to be forgotten as the discussion gets derailed into what is and what isn't representative of Africa. It may have been better to make that part of your title the 'Developing World' or something similar.

In any case I agree with the point you were making, which is that too many sites, especially social networking sites, are paying too little attention to optimising the experience for those on slower connections with high latency. So kudos for raising it and pointing to a specific example (Google+).

Re: Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa

#24

In Rwanda here - can't say I notice much difference between Google+ and Facebook. The Facebook website is significantly more usable than the Facebook Android app which doesn't work at all... but I think that applies the world over.

I'm in europe and the Facebook app is equally worthless here. I've gone back to using the website instead of the iOS version (now used exclusively for uploading photos).

Re: Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa

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It's not just Google+, by the way. All of Google's services are noticeably slower after they switched to the new look that Google's changing everything to. Bad move in my opinion. We don't care if the pages are very pretty, Google. We just want what we want.

Re: Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa

#26

The point about Facebook is well made. I'm glad that Facebook have taken the decision (thus far at least) not to overload their core UX with JS effects. This means that it is nearly always very easy to use FB. By contrast, it always feels like it takes twice as long as it should to tweet and use G+, because the UX has been designed to be "beautiful." And I'm in Europe - I can only imagine it is an order of magnitude…

clearly you don't have timeline yet...

You could argue that core UX for Facebook is news feed, rather then profile pages.

Re: Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa

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post #19

For those living in large US and European cities we take our internet speed for granted. I am assuming that it's not google to blame but rather local infrastructure?

Depends what you mean by "local infrastructure". Up until recently east Africa dint have a fiber link to the rest of the internet, it was all satilite. Forget last miles, this is the last 1000 miles.

For those interested in the current and planned undersea cable infrastructure, there's a good SVG diagram on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Cable_map18.svg

Re: Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa

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post #2

I'm from South Africa. I'm not sure if they cache Google+ here (I know they cache YouTube) or use a CDN, but I've found Google+ to do exactly this. It's slow, and sometimes stuff just doesn't load (especially images). It's strange, because Google+ is the first social network I've seen that actually promotes itself on my campus (large installs with lifesize Angry Birds).

Just out of interest, what is the life size of an angry bird?

Re: Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa

#29
post #5

and again SouthAfrica != Africa

The post is from Zimbabwe so do you mean Southern Africa?

Unlikely, south Africa is quite an outlier in Africa. Southern Africa is usually taken to include it an lots of other countries (eg. Tanzania). That as a group, is jot an outlier within Africa.

Re: Why it's hard to love Google Plus in Africa

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i'm currently in bolivia, and well, lets say, the internet isn't always very fast or reliable. not only is the G+ website unusable (takes ages to load, breaks in between), but also the (right hand side top) widget thingy on search and gmail does not work. it shows (again and again) some red/urgent numbers displaying that something important has happened -> click -> nothings turns up. (and if it for once works, it's not important, just another random person added me to a circle).

fb loads fast, works perfectly - and after i resized my pictures to 480 to 360 i can even upload them.

my personal opinion is, that any website/app that implements it's scrollbars via JS has to much JS.

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