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April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by ericyd »

thih9 wrote: post #11

> The web should work without JavaScript. Says who? Perhaps popular platforms like twitter or instagram should support UX based on texting instead of requiring apps. Perhaps emails should be readable plaintext and without images. I could go on. I love all of these ideas in theory; but in practice the ship seems to have sailed - and in a different direction. I guess it's a mixture of primordial enshittification and ol…

I added a very similar comment before I saw yours. I guess I can also look forward to being downvoted for having a different opinion.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by _a_a_a_ »

pennomi wrote: post #18
_a_a_a_ wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Completely disabling JavaScript is a no-go these days Wrong. I use a browser in a VM when needed, and I don't do that very often, maybe once or twice a day. No ads, fast static text, low cpu, very safe, it's pretty damn good.

If you need to dip into another browser once or twice every day, you’ve basically proved that you can’t in fact operate entirely without JavaScript.

ISWYM. I operate 95% - 98% without so, close. Am very happy with it.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by schiffern »

Springtime wrote: post #12

With Javascript disabled the aspect that is a pet peeve isn't some broken functionality of a site (which one would expect) but when a considerable amount of sites add a blank overlay until JS and/or cookies are enabled. And not the scenario where JS is responsible for loading the content but literally when it's just an arbitrary blank viewport-encompassing element covering the already loaded content—all so the site c…

> add a blank overlay until JS and/or cookies are enabled

On many sites Firefox "Reader mode" can work around this.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by schiffern »

largbae wrote: post #6

Completely disabling JavaScript is a no-go these days. But Firefox+NoScript is both enlightening and refreshing. Did you know that CNN tries to run JavaScript from more than 30 domains on the front page, but is functional and ad-free after enabling 2 or 3? The Add-on allows you to enable or disable specific domains serving JavaScript, and automatically save those preferences for later visits. I find that I only notic…

If you use uBlock Origin (and you should!), it can be configured to work in a similar way. NoScript does have some extra features though.

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Dynamic-filtering:-qu...

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode

https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki/Blocking-mode:-hard-m...

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by netsharc »

ericyd wrote: post #19

> The web should work without JavaScript. I don't agree with this, and the site provides very thin or no justification for this claim. "Should" is inherently subjective, so I will not be participating in this event.

It's like making a wrong turn and ending up in an Amish festival...

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by skydhash »

thih9 wrote: post #11

> The web should work without JavaScript. Says who? Perhaps popular platforms like twitter or instagram should support UX based on texting instead of requiring apps. Perhaps emails should be readable plaintext and without images. I could go on. I love all of these ideas in theory; but in practice the ship seems to have sailed - and in a different direction. I guess it's a mixture of primordial enshittification and ol…

The only time that javascript is required are when you need some element that is stateful accross data loading (maps, audio player, chat,…) or the action would return essentially the same data with a few difference (voting, autocomplete). There are also some components still missing from the web spec like carrousel (you can probably do some css wizardry) and a calendar widget.

But the current state that wants us to download js files that are bigger that the epub format of War and Peace? Not essential.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by rand0mx1 »

Springtime wrote: post #12

With Javascript disabled the aspect that is a pet peeve isn't some broken functionality of a site (which one would expect) but when a considerable amount of sites add a blank overlay until JS and/or cookies are enabled. And not the scenario where JS is responsible for loading the content but literally when it's just an arbitrary blank viewport-encompassing element covering the already loaded content—all so the site c…

Cloudflare will block new visitors as there will be no captcha to load.

Re: April 24 is JavaScript Naked Day – Browse the web without JavaScript

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Post by bee_rider »

difosfor wrote: post #5

Next up: CSS naked day? Seriously though, I respect the ideal of using HTML as much as possible for what it's made. But the web is more than just pure content sites. And Javascript provides a lot of nice things as well.

I think they block everything for awareness. “Use a reasonable amount of JavaScript day” would not be very memorable. In actuality the right thing to do is leave JavaScript blocked by default, and then think critically about whether or not you trust a site enough to download and run a random program from it. If so, then JavaScript could be enabled.
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