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Google’s newly formed 'Platforms and Devices' team is all about AI

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Post by lawlessone »

Mathnerd314 wrote: post #18

I guess it makes them more like Apple, having a vertically integrated division for making phones. TFA says it might make other phone manufacturers struggle. Although I get the impression they are already struggling with the Open Handset Alliance terms from Google that they don't like. Maybe the best outcome is that AOSP gets multiple active forks supported by manufacturers, Google apps stop being distributed by defau…

The other manufactures are fine I think as google still build a quality phone to house their cutting edge tech.

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Post by lawlessone »

bearjaws wrote: post #9

I believe I speak for everyone when I say: As long as the AI does something helpful I don't care how you structure the team. But the current generative craze with "AI generated backgrounds" is a dead end. Give me better AI autocomplete, AI image correction, AI noise cancellation...

>Give me better AI autocomplete, AI image correction, AI noise cancellation..

We have all those, some of it we've had a long time, we just didn't call it AI.

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Post by HeatrayEnjoyer »

Mathnerd314 wrote: post #18

I guess it makes them more like Apple, having a vertically integrated division for making phones. TFA says it might make other phone manufacturers struggle. Although I get the impression they are already struggling with the Open Handset Alliance terms from Google that they don't like. Maybe the best outcome is that AOSP gets multiple active forks supported by manufacturers, Google apps stop being distributed by defau…

Samsung is the dominant Android manufacturer by far.

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rickdeckard wrote: post #17

So the team that is in charge of the OS which is licensed to Hardware vendors in the world is the same team that's in charge to create competing Hardware? I'd say that creates a huge conflict of interest. That's one of the big reasons why Nokia Series60 didn't take off as a licensed OS: Whatever Samsung or LG or Lenovo wanted to build on that platform to differentiate, they had to involve Nokia during the development…

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Post by dheera »

rickdeckard wrote: post #17

So the team that is in charge of the OS which is licensed to Hardware vendors in the world is the same team that's in charge to create competing Hardware? I'd say that creates a huge conflict of interest. That's one of the big reasons why Nokia Series60 didn't take off as a licensed OS: Whatever Samsung or LG or Lenovo wanted to build on that platform to differentiate, they had to involve Nokia during the development…

Conflict of interest is a human invention, and not a law of the universe. There is no "conflict" unless you see it as one.

You can play chess against yourself. AlphaGo can, because it wasn't brainwashed about this notion. ChatGPT can debate against itself. You can too, if you don't see it as a conflict. Humans might find it hard, only because they were brainwashed from a child that they need to pick sides. Your neural net is capable of operating on both sides simultaneously if you let it.

The market is big enough for Google to create hardware AND other companies to create hardware.

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Post by blackeyeblitzar »

The world needs a third party software and hardware stack that isn’t controlled by big tech walled garden monopolists / authoritarians. Not just for phones but laptops and computers too. As far as phones go, unfortunately the best alternative I’ve heard of is Graphene and the best phone for Graphene is the Pixel series. And I assume using it as a daily driver is problematic without access to various apps or maybe if websites block them or even carriers - not sure.

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Post by spankalee »

rickdeckard wrote: post #17

So the team that is in charge of the OS which is licensed to Hardware vendors in the world is the same team that's in charge to create competing Hardware? I'd say that creates a huge conflict of interest. That's one of the big reasons why Nokia Series60 didn't take off as a licensed OS: Whatever Samsung or LG or Lenovo wanted to build on that platform to differentiate, they had to involve Nokia during the development…

The first priority for Android is competing against iPhone. Any self-dealing to get Pixel to have more of the Android pie would be far down the list, and probably counter-productive. It was already possible under the previous structure anyway.

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Post by bossyTeacher »

blackeyeblitzar wrote: post #28

The world needs a third party software and hardware stack that isn’t controlled by big tech walled garden monopolists / authoritarians. Not just for phones but laptops and computers too. As far as phones go, unfortunately the best alternative I’ve heard of is Graphene and the best phone for Graphene is the Pixel series. And I assume using it as a daily driver is problematic without access to various apps or maybe if…

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