I'm sorry, but I hate the recent web trend of scrolling not making you scroll, and it instead advances some flashy animation
The invisible seafaring industry that keeps the internet afloat
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Re: The invisible seafaring industry that keeps the internet afloat
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the information density is too low You failed the marshmallow test [1]. There is a traditional, long-form article that presents a rewarding read. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experim...
Marshmallow test assumes the payoff exists and is worth it. Does it? Is it? IDK and I don't want to waste time finding out. I'm far more interested in information-dense sources that let me find out if I want to know what it's offering. That's why journal articles have abstracts.
> Does it? Is it? IDK and I don't want to waste time finding out
This is what goes through the toddlers’ heads too! Gauging credibility is inextricably entangled with patience and Kahmeman’s System 2 thinking [1][2].
If this were a random article, sure, you shouldn’t trust. But it’s not. It’s on HN’s front page.
Re: The invisible seafaring industry that keeps the internet afloat
#23I stopped after the first 3 slides, since the information density is too low and the animation too slow.
> the information density is too low You failed the marshmallow test [1]. There is a traditional, long-form article that presents a rewarding read. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experim...
The kid can see the marshmallow. I can’t see the payoff from this article.
The kid knows what the payoff is.
The payoff here is unknown.
Re: The invisible seafaring industry that keeps the internet afloat
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Marshmallow test assumes the payoff exists and is worth it. Does it? Is it? IDK and I don't want to waste time finding out. I'm far more interested in information-dense sources that let me find out if I want to know what it's offering. That's why journal articles have abstracts.
> Does it? Is it? IDK and I don't want to waste time finding out This is what goes through the toddlers’ heads too! Gauging credibility is inextricably entangled with patience and Kahmeman’s System 2 thinking [1][2]. If this were a random article, sure, you shouldn’t trust. But it’s not. It’s on HN ’s front page. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3730121/ [2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thinking,_F…
The Internet is full of non-marshmallows though, I'm not gonna wait around forever for a haribo
Re: The invisible seafaring industry that keeps the internet afloat
#25Telegeography (cited in the article) publishes an interactive submarine cable map: https://www.submarinecablemap.com You can even buy printed versions: https://shop.telegeography.com/collections/telecom-maps/
Interestingly, I can’t see a single line from the US to Russia or China (not sure about the latter).
Not much reason to have direct cables. The parts of Russia and the US that are close to each other are very empty, and it makes sense to land transpacific cables in Japan or Taiwan and pick up traffic there rather than going non-stop to China.
Re: The invisible seafaring industry that keeps the internet afloat
#26For those complaining about the presentation, Safari's "Show Reader View" works well. Also supported on Firefox. On Chrome, it's complicated.
Re: The invisible seafaring industry that keeps the internet afloat
#27For those who have never seen it, Neal Stephenson's "Mother Earth Mother Board" for Wired in 1996 is the must-read classic of this genre. Wired seems to have paywalled it recently but it's available on archive.org https://web.archive.org/web/20151107094324/https://www.wired...
That immediately came to mind when I saw this article.
Re: The invisible seafaring industry that keeps the internet afloat
#28TLDR: They're telling the story of the boat crews that lay and repair all of the submarine fiber optic cable and puts a human face behind it all.
It's actually a very good read.
Re: The invisible seafaring industry that keeps the internet afloat
#29I stopped after the first 3 slides, since the information density is too low and the animation too slow.
> the information density is too low You failed the marshmallow test [1]. There is a traditional, long-form article that presents a rewarding read. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experim...
The article fails the marshmallow test - it needs to convince people that there is a traditional, long-form article that will be a rewarding read from the start.
Only then is the test relevant to humans. Otherwise, all that's really being tested is the reader's trust in the publisher.
Re: The invisible seafaring industry that keeps the internet afloat
#30I stopped after the first 3 slides, since the information density is too low and the animation too slow.
> the information density is too low You failed the marshmallow test [1]. There is a traditional, long-form article that presents a rewarding read. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_marshmallow_experim...
I really hate how articles are starting with full page slides and animations now. This is the third article that I've seen this week following the format. I suppose since two of those three were on the HN front page it's a format that works, but I guess I'm not the target audience.