>And with Calc, that’s exactly what happened: Massive technical improvements. No visual improvement. And nobody noticed. In fact, the complaints just keep coming. “Look at Calc, same as it always was.”
UI redesigns are mostly a waste of time (2019)
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's the other way around for me. The product that goes through more redesigns (and inevitably hides or drops features as a result) seems shakier. In comparison, I'm still using foobar2000 and Craigslist 20 years later.
It depends on the product. If it's a site that you're directly making payments on, customers usually want to see something something that looks modern and recently updated. I don't have the wording for the survey question, but the result boiled down to old looking sites/creaky clunky sites are seen as less trustworthy to ecommerce buyers, at least the ones one of my former clients surveyed.
Other things like non-monetized blogs can stand being retro.
Re: UI redesigns are mostly a waste of time (2019)
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#25No, UI redesigns are a waste of time for the user . They are very effective at getting the executives who sponsor them promoted, because they look great in a PowerPoint. The actual customer of an executive is the finance department, because they are the ones who actually control the headcount & budgets that an executive needs, and they are usually not the user. How the product works is often invisible to someone who…
No UI is really intuitive enough that there isn't a formal or informal learning and even training cost to it. Then the redesign invariably finds a new way to hide the controls (hamburger menus, ... menus, gosh knows what else).
Re: UI redesigns are mostly a waste of time (2019)
#26Can anyone here explain why YouTube (namely the mobile interface) goes through a total redesign every 1-2 years? Is it just to earn some unknown manager another promotion? I'm getting really sick of it at this point.
Pretty much that, yep. There's very little productive new ground to grow on if you're working on YouTube. There's existing glaring site problems, but they're on purpose and ideologically driven (shorts, placebo dislike, subscriptions mean nothing) so no one is going to touch them. It's politically safer and more advantageous to mess with the UI and irritate all the users every couple years.
Re: UI redesigns are mostly a waste of time (2019)
#27This isn't specific to UI redesigns, or even to software in general. People have been doing things "just because" since before the discovery of fire.
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#28The author asks about smooth redesign and gradual deployment. I guess like google docs do.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pretty much that, yep. There's very little productive new ground to grow on if you're working on YouTube. There's existing glaring site problems, but they're on purpose and ideologically driven (shorts, placebo dislike, subscriptions mean nothing) so no one is going to touch them. It's politically safer and more advantageous to mess with the UI and irritate all the users every couple years.
But what about fixing the obvious, common, and annoying bugs in the web version? That doesn't count as an accomplishment?