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Re: This is a teenager

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Post by bumby »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #19
subpixel wrote: post #6

Positive relationships with adults is shown to be means of counteracting adverse childhood experiences. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8237477/ I volunteer in a local school. It's not always fun, but something has to change.

Less kids in households that don't want them. This is a pipeline problem. Intentional children only. Hard topic to cover online, nuance and emotions on the topic. > I volunteer in a local school. It's not always fun, but something has to change. You're a good person doing necessary work. There aren't enough humans doing it, but it matters to who you're helping.

Related, and equally hard to cover online:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_e...

Re: This is a teenager

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Post by twelvechairs »

The animation is dominating the narrarive rather than assisting it. I (as many I assume) just want to skim the information and find myself stuck waiting for things to load or pathfinding algorithms to work. People keep flipping side to side needlessly also. Sometimes I'd just prefer flat 2d diagrams.

Re: This is a teenager

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Post by toomuchtodo »

bumby wrote: post #21
toomuchtodo wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Less kids in households that don't want them. This is a pipeline problem. Intentional children only. Hard topic to cover online, nuance and emotions on the topic. > I volunteer in a local school. It's not always fun, but something has to change. You're a good person doing necessary work. There aren't enough humans doing it, but it matters to who you're helping.

Related, and equally hard to cover online: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legalized_abortion_and_crime_e...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39978774 ("HN: Steven Levitt and John Donohue defend the abortion-crime hypothesis")

https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2024/04/08/steven-le... | https://archive.today/m3zl0 ("Steven Levitt and John Donohue defend a finding made famous by “Freakonomics”")

Re: This is a teenager

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Post by elil17 »

Anyone else notice how those with the most adverse experiences were both more likely to be depressed and more likely to be happy "all of the time" for the past month?

Is this a flaw in the data? What is the causal explanation for this?

Re: This is a teenager

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Post by tetromino_ »

aidenn0 wrote: post #7

Am I supposed to see more than one teenager at the point where the narrative suggests I can? I only see one as I'm scrolling through. Firefox 120.0.1 [edit] I scrolled all the way to the top and then back down and it seems to have resolved the issue.

Same but here with Chrome on Android. I also get scrolling freezing in places so I am forced to reload the page (and then graphics disappear).

The article would have been vastly more readable if it was plain html with static embedded images and without any custom scroll/touch event handling - then one would easily be able to scroll around in it, search text, and view charts uncorrupted by javascript bugs.

I am sure the author is proud of their nytimes-like data visualization project, but in this case, the visualization makes the result in every way worse.

Re: This is a teenager

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Post by ianbicking »

numlocked wrote: post #5

Very cool site, however... ...my takeaway is a little different than what is in the commentary box (for the year 2017 in particular). The distribution of incomes don't actually look that different, to my eye. If this is the grand reveal -- showing that childhood heavily influences future financial mobility -- it's not super obvious. I mean, yes, there seem to be a bit of a skew towards low earners in the bottom tranc…

I noticed that too... the effects didn't look nearly as dramatic from the visuals as the text would make me believe.

The exception was health, that was a much more dramatic correlation than income/etc. It reminds me of a study recently of homelessness in California, and people made a big deal about housing availability and affordability as the prime factor, but seemed to ignore the very notable health correlation in that study.

Re: This is a teenager

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Post by visarga »

Apparently GPA distribution is less affected by adverse experiences. So doing college admissions based on GPA sounds more fair than affirmative action. Some people from disadvantaged groups also say they would rather be admitted on merit alone because it is more reliable in the long run, but they don't get this choice.

Re: This is a teenager

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Post by [deleted] »

RobCat27 wrote: post #14

I like the message, but I feel like this is bad data visualization. The width of each group of people is not the same, so it's somewhat meaningless to visually compare groups without being able to see the raw percentages. For example, the "Many Adverse Experiences" group is stretched to be longer than the other groups so that proportionally fewer people in that group appear to be a larger proportion than the same pro…

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Re: This is a teenager

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Post by unbalancedevh »

RobCat27 wrote: post #14

I like the message, but I feel like this is bad data visualization. The width of each group of people is not the same, so it's somewhat meaningless to visually compare groups without being able to see the raw percentages. For example, the "Many Adverse Experiences" group is stretched to be longer than the other groups so that proportionally fewer people in that group appear to be a larger proportion than the same pro…

Also, the visualization doesn't update well when scrolling back and forth; and the grouping is bad -- "bullied" is listed as an adverse condition, but is also shown as a separate grouping; and the way it's displayed for "Seen someone shot with a gun" is backwards, implying that the vast majority have seen that. Too bad, because it otherwise seems like an interesting study.
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