Tesla Allegedly Pauses Cybertruck Deliveries

Post by qarl » Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 1:52 PM UTC

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No clear coat. > To prevent damage to the exterior, immediately remove corrosive substances (such as grease, oil, bird droppings, tree resin, dead insects, tar spots, road salt, industrial fallout, etc.). Do not wait until Cybertruck is due for a complete wash. If necessary, use denatured alcohol to remove tar spots and stubborn grease stains, then immediately wash the area with water and a mild, non-detergent soap t…

Literally any car will have its clear coat eaten away from the same list of corrosive substances. It’s very common to get rings around where bird poop drops on a car and sits, because it etches the clear coat. Don’t see how this recommendation is different.

Post by qarl » Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 2:05 PM UTC

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LOL. I've been buying new cars for 40 years now and I've never had my paint damaged by bird poop. Maybe the birds are more corrosive where you live.

I don’t know where you’ve been, but you can find endless articles about bird poop etching paint. With plenty of photos too. Here’s a few: https://www.adamsforums.com/topic/38396-can-this-be-removed-... https://www.civic11forum.com/threads/bird-poop-ruined-my-cle... https://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-your-detailing-ques...

Post by gengwyn » Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 2:10 PM UTC

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They had a ton of demand for them, but when the reality set in that stainless steel is a nightmare to align (sub 10-micron accuracy!!) and a nightmare to maintain, the car fell into the niche category. How it got this far will be written about for a decade, a great example of not performing real world testing and validation. You know somewhere deep in Tesla product people and engineers we're warning of the issues to…

Why don’t we just wait to see how things play out before making that kind of judgment? Production has barely started to ramp.

Post by qarl » Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 2:59 PM UTC

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LOL. LOL. Are you a professional Tesla defender? I've lived on the west coast, the east coast, and the midwest. I've never experienced paint damage due to bird poop in 40 years. Since you seem to know so much about the issue - do you know of any other car manufacturer who recommends immediate removal of bird poop as the first line of their exterior car instructions?

Are you specifically anti-Tesla? Let me help you, since you can't seem to find these on Google, here's two: Kia EV6 Manual: https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kwcms/au/en/files/owners-man... Excerpt: > Insects, tar, tree sap, bird droppings, industrial pollution and similar deposits can damage your vehicle's finish if not removed immediately. Even prompt washing with plain water may not completely remove all these depos…

Post by qarl » Mon, Apr 15, 2024, 3:23 PM UTC

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Why thank you for finding these for me. I admit, I searched around a bit on Toyota's and Honda's sites and found no such warnings - just generic "make sure to wash your car every couple weeks." It's quite remarkable that you were able to pinpoint this information in such a short amount of time. So, in the end, would you agree that the stainless steel finish is no more resistant to damage than a typical car? It's no m…

Depends on how you quantify rugged or durable. It certainly seems far more resilient to dings/dents/scrapes, which the average car is definitely not resilient to currently. Whether it handles rusting/environmental conditions well seems TBD at this point. Probably worse for “looking nice” after a wash than the average car, but these things are so damn new I don’t want to pass judgment yet.