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U.S. Steel Shareholders Approve Sale to Japan's Nippon Steel

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Crazy that congress is fighting over ownership of TikTok, but letting a critical piece of US manufacturing be foreign owned with hardly a word.

You can "solve" Japan owning US Steel by the army showing up tomorrow. You can't move a steel mill.

You can't "solve" TikTok short of shutting them down.

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#22

Strongly recommended blog post: ‘“No inventions; no innovations," a History of US Steel’ by Brian Potter https://www.construction-physics.com/p/no-inventions-no-inno...

> Today, it makes just 12% of American steel...and employs around the same number of people as online pet retailer Chewy.

That's...surprising.

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Crazy that congress is fighting over ownership of TikTok, but letting a critical piece of US manufacturing be foreign owned with hardly a word.

The factories aren’t going anywhere. If Japan and the U.S. go to war, we can nationalize them.

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#24

Strongly recommended blog post: ‘“No inventions; no innovations," a History of US Steel’ by Brian Potter https://www.construction-physics.com/p/no-inventions-no-inno...

+1. I read this a few weeks back and it really stuck with me.

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For now? I am pretty sure that at one point China was an ally and Japan an enemy. I think.

China has never been a western ally

Perhaps you are forgetting WWII, when China was a main member of a group which literally called themselves "The Allies" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Policemen

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For now? I am pretty sure that at one point China was an ally and Japan an enemy. I think.

China has never been a western ally

China was very notably an ally while the KMT was in power of mainland China.

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For now? I am pretty sure that at one point China was an ally and Japan an enemy. I think.

In the 80s and 90s there was a lot of hostility to Japan, because they looked like they might surpass us economically. They were even the villain of some Tom Clancy books. Now, the fear/hate is aimed at China, same reason.

Japan never had nuclear weapons.

China has like ten times the population of japan, is now a dictatorship (like the roman republic, maybe?), the territory is massive, is a russian ally and a couple more reasons.

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Crazy that congress is fighting over ownership of TikTok, but letting a critical piece of US manufacturing be foreign owned with hardly a word.

Can you explain what nefarious things Japan - one of the US’s closest allies by the way - could do by owning 12% of the USA’s steel output in the form of physical factories that are on US soil?

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#29

Strongly recommended blog post: ‘“No inventions; no innovations," a History of US Steel’ by Brian Potter https://www.construction-physics.com/p/no-inventions-no-inno...

Thanks for sharing. This is a disturbing read in some ways:

> To maintain prices in the face of fluctuating demand, Gary would gather the industry’s leadership together in regular “Gary Dinners,” where price levels would be agreed upon and Gary would “exhort the chairmen, presidents, or other major owners of steel companies to maintain rank.” Those who refused to cooperate would be “disciplined” by the others. Many former Carnegie Steel executives, schooled in the intense competition of the Carnegie years, were allergic to this strategy, and departed for other steel companies.

> Under his leadership, the company successfully fought off a Justice Department lawsuit to break up the company as an illegal monopoly. (Perversely, the court ruled that the Gary Dinners proved that US Steel did not have the power to set prices, and thus couldn’t be a monopoly).

This makes me wonder if we just need totally different laws that are not going to be mired in lawsuits that drag out for years while monopolies and oligopolies continue making money. Maybe we just need higher taxes for the biggest corporations.

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I think the critical difference is that Japan is an ally and China is not.

For now? I am pretty sure that at one point China was an ally and Japan an enemy. I think.

Japan is littered in American military bases and personnel. It is practically a territory with a fig leaf of domestic policy self determination.
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