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Big Tech's underground race to buy AI training data

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Re: Big Tech's underground race to buy AI training data

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Who could have guessed giving away all of our data to corporations wholly focused on profit would be a bad thing?

If the end result is ai chat agents that anyone in the world can access for free, that seems like an absolutely wonderful thing

What makes you think that will be the end result?

Re: Big Tech's underground race to buy AI training data

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This market is troubling. But I have a different question:

What does the long game look like for raw training data? How will AIs maintain the quality of their diet?

To compare, web search started — in the early days of Google — as a huge win because so much valuable information that was scattered around became findable. But over time it has become whac-a-mole with spam and AI copypasta, and now it's a struggle to keep returning good results, for any search engine.

Re: Big Tech's underground race to buy AI training data

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>in talks with multiple tech companies to license Photobucket's 13 billion photos and videos >Photobucket declined to identify its prospective buyers, citing commercial confidentiality. >tech companies are also quietly paying for content locked behind paywalls and login screens, giving rise to a hidden trade in everything from chat logs to long forgotten personal photos from faded social media apps In this market, et…

> It's immediately and self-evidently obvious that no end-user in 2007 consented to photos of their 2007 era teenage self being used to train an AI how to identify an emo kid.

I can think of worse things than that which might be hidden away for public scraping.

Re: Big Tech's underground race to buy AI training data

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They talk about voice samples, but they don’t mention prices for them Would it be attractive for a company like Twilio or Aircall to offer free phone calls and sell anonymized recordings?

No, that's gross violation of privacy; no such thing as anonymized recordings.

It would be a violation of privacy if people weren’t aware/hadn’t consented

But if it was part of the terms of the new free service, and all the parties involved got a reminder message on the call… you might still not like it, but it doesn’t seem like it would be a violation of privacy

Re: Big Tech's underground race to buy AI training data

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the end result is ai chat agents that anyone in the world can access for free, that seems like an absolutely wonderful thing

What makes you think that will be the end result?

It's already the case, there are free models that were trained on this data

Re: Big Tech's underground race to buy AI training data

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>in talks with multiple tech companies to license Photobucket's 13 billion photos and videos >Photobucket declined to identify its prospective buyers, citing commercial confidentiality. >tech companies are also quietly paying for content locked behind paywalls and login screens, giving rise to a hidden trade in everything from chat logs to long forgotten personal photos from faded social media apps In this market, et…

Photobucket is a morally bankrupt shell of its former self. They send constant emails with extremely urgent subject lines threatening to delete your photos unless you sign up for a $5/mo plan. They do this even if your account doesn't contain any photos.

Re: Big Tech's underground race to buy AI training data

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post #5

They talk about voice samples, but they don’t mention prices for them Would it be attractive for a company like Twilio or Aircall to offer free phone calls and sell anonymized recordings?

Funnily, this is how Google improved their voice recognition.

Remember a decade or so ago, you could call a 1-800 number and look up phone numbers using your voice? It was backed by Google and once Google was done collecting the data, they shut it down.

Re: Big Tech's underground race to buy AI training data

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>Rates vary by buyer and content type, but Braga said companies are generally willing to pay $1 to $2 per image, $2 to $4 per short-form video and $100 to $300 per hour of longer films. The market rate for text is $0.001 per word, she added. This is high enough that there should be a market to compensate the end users who created these

There was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datacoup , which tried to create a market, but they ultimately went under and the brand is now used by an unrelated company.
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