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7 out of every 10 Fentanyl pills seized by DEA contain a lethal dose

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So maybe start with a quarter tablet? .. Genuine question: How does it make fiscal business sense to kill your customers after one hit? Edit: thank you all for your informative replies

Surely the DEA wouldn't exaggerate?

not an exaggeration, but relativity is everything here

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#23
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Do you think legalising safer drugs, like Heroin, would be a sensible step? [Edit: I do] I advocate legalising Opium straight away. I think Heroin is a step further than required. How many people have to die from synthetic opiate overdose? The obvious public health measure is to legalise the much safer natural alternatives.

Legalizing opiates is silly. It only takes a handful of times to get hooked and people currently use alcohol for months on end to get through hard times. Anyone with even a slight propensity for substance abuse would be an addict within a year. Contrary to the popular narrative it’s not super simple to get opiates and honestly it’s not on most people’s radars to even seek it out.

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Do you think legalising safer drugs, like Heroin, would be a sensible step? [Edit: I do] I advocate legalising Opium straight away. I think Heroin is a step further than required. How many people have to die from synthetic opiate overdose? The obvious public health measure is to legalise the much safer natural alternatives.

Just because a drug doesn't kill you physically, doesn't mean it doesn't harm you in other deeply profound ways. Related: Nuggets[1] 1. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUngLgGRJpo

Opiates, and many classes of illegal drugs, do very little harm.

Addiction is the main feature, and if the substance has no artificial scarcity, addiction is easy to manage.

There is no basis on harm reduction for the drug policies being pursued in most of the world

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post #9
post #6

Do you think legalising safer drugs, like Heroin, would be a sensible step? [Edit: I do] I advocate legalising Opium straight away. I think Heroin is a step further than required. How many people have to die from synthetic opiate overdose? The obvious public health measure is to legalise the much safer natural alternatives.

Cigarettes are already legal despite killing 7x as many in the US as all opioids combined every day, week, month, and year. US drug policy is not about harm reduction or life saving, and never has been.

Cigarettes are a slow poison and mild stimulant at worst. It really doesn’t modify a person’s day to day behavior in any significant way.

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#27
post #6

Do you think legalising safer drugs, like Heroin, would be a sensible step? [Edit: I do] I advocate legalising Opium straight away. I think Heroin is a step further than required. How many people have to die from synthetic opiate overdose? The obvious public health measure is to legalise the much safer natural alternatives.

Legalizing opiates is silly. It only takes a handful of times to get hooked and people currently use alcohol for months on end to get through hard times. Anyone with even a slight propensity for substance abuse would be an addict within a year. Contrary to the popular narrative it’s not super simple to get opiates and honestly it’s not on most people’s radars to even seek it out.

> Anyone with even a slight propensity for substance abuse would be an addict within a year

There is no evidence for that.

The evidence is that drug addiction has more to do with social issues than chemistry.

The book https://chasingthescream.com/ is a good read on this issue.

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post #6

Do you think legalising safer drugs, like Heroin, would be a sensible step? [Edit: I do] I advocate legalising Opium straight away. I think Heroin is a step further than required. How many people have to die from synthetic opiate overdose? The obvious public health measure is to legalise the much safer natural alternatives.

Legalizing opiates is silly. It only takes a handful of times to get hooked and people currently use alcohol for months on end to get through hard times. Anyone with even a slight propensity for substance abuse would be an addict within a year. Contrary to the popular narrative it’s not super simple to get opiates and honestly it’s not on most people’s radars to even seek it out.

The US effectively had legalized opiates during the Oxycontin era. Many people were addicted to these drugs under order of their doctor. Then their supply was cutoff and they started seeing illicit sources. Enter: Fentanyl.

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#29
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

When you legalize something you get more of it. Gotta be mindful of that.

More drugs? Why is that bad?

For the users' health, for the user's mental health, for society that has to tolerate these less-functioning persons, for their families, friends, relatives, employees, and so on.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cigarettes are already legal despite killing 7x as many in the US as all opioids combined every day, week, month, and year. US drug policy is not about harm reduction or life saving, and never has been.

Cigarettes are a slow poison and mild stimulant at worst. It really doesn’t modify a person’s day to day behavior in any significant way.

Sends them out to stand in the rain several times a day....
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