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Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

#21

Backblaze B2 is cheaper than Cloudflare R2 IA. Hmmm

Backblaze is unprofitable and publicly traded, a combination which cant last forever. They raised B2 prices 20% last year, I wouldnt be surprised to see more increases if they continue to burn through cash.

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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post #19

Backblaze B2 is cheaper than Cloudflare R2 IA. Hmmm

B2 can be great but it is missing a lot of features when compared to other object stores so it isn't a good solution for every scenario. As an example I investigated, to put a custom domain in front of a B2 bucket they suggest using Cloudflare and CNAME-ing a bucket subdomain (eg f000.backblazeb2.com) https://www.backblaze.com/docs/cloud-storage-deliver-public-... Well if f000.backblazeb2.com is used for any other pe…

I'm not sure I understand all of the nuances here (I'm no webmaster), but this is covered in the documentation you linked:

> You must configure page rules to allow Cloudflare to fetch only your Backblaze B2 bucket from your domain. ... Otherwise, someone could use your domain to fetch content from another customer's public bucket. To ensure this does not happen, Cloudflare lets you use page rules to scope requests to your bucket.

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

B2 can be great but it is missing a lot of features when compared to other object stores so it isn't a good solution for every scenario. As an example I investigated, to put a custom domain in front of a B2 bucket they suggest using Cloudflare and CNAME-ing a bucket subdomain (eg f000.backblazeb2.com) https://www.backblaze.com/docs/cloud-storage-deliver-public-... Well if f000.backblazeb2.com is used for any other pe…

I'm not sure I understand all of the nuances here (I'm no webmaster), but this is covered in the documentation you linked: > You must configure page rules to allow Cloudflare to fetch only your Backblaze B2 bucket from your domain. ... Otherwise, someone could use your domain to fetch content from another customer's public bucket. To ensure this does not happen, Cloudflare lets you use page rules to scope requests to…

The example shows leaving your bucket name in the url as a way to filter out requests to other bucket names. If you want your static site to have http://mysite.com/bucketname/index.html then I guess that's ok. But again, careful configuration and still not for every situation.

I'm sure you can layer more rules to get it exactly right but I'd not be eager to layer on complex configuration through multiple service providers when it is avoidable, unless there is some very compelling overriding reason.

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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post #20

Backblaze B2 is cheaper than Cloudflare R2 IA. Hmmm

and iDrive e2 is even cheaper. https://www.idrive.com/s3-storage-e2/

iDrive is slow and charges extremely high fees for usage above provisioned. They also have a history of increasing prices for individual contracts only a few weeks before renewal, so you can't possibly have enough time to move your data.

Hetzner Storage Boxes (2.50-3 EUR per TB) is probably the sweet spot. B2 if you need an object storage API.

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

#26

A fairly unrelated point, but its so strange how companies that underpin a lot of the internet struggle in the stock market. While we all wish we had sold our tech stocks in 2021, Cloudflare still hasn't recovered.

I believe Cloudflare (and many other cos like it) have never produced operating income. They are growing and obviously important and potentially very profitable in the future, but when discount rates are much higher and you add in some uncertainty, one could argue they don't look as hot as they used to.

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

#27

A fairly unrelated point, but its so strange how companies that underpin a lot of the internet struggle in the stock market. While we all wish we had sold our tech stocks in 2021, Cloudflare still hasn't recovered.

Cloudflare has a very dysfunctional sales pipeline. Their free, premium and self-serve offerings might underpin the internet, but the highly profitable offerings that are gated behind their sales teams are not getting sold. Too many of the clients that they should be selling to.

Magic Transit (bring your own ASN), classic website DDoS protection (above the Business $200 tier, which has low, undisclosed data limits in regions like New Zealand) and ilk all require interacting with the sales rep, and unless your paying 5 figures a month they are disinterested.

There is a whole market out there between $300 to $2000 a month that Cloudflare could tap without making new infrastructure but is actively being ignored.

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and iDrive e2 is even cheaper. https://www.idrive.com/s3-storage-e2/

Isn't iDrive a BMW trademark for decades? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_iDrive

Trademarks only apply to specific classes of things. https://www.uspto.gov/trademarks/basics/goods-and-services

Re: Cloudflare R2 IA storage tier

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post #27

A fairly unrelated point, but its so strange how companies that underpin a lot of the internet struggle in the stock market. While we all wish we had sold our tech stocks in 2021, Cloudflare still hasn't recovered.

Cloudflare has a very dysfunctional sales pipeline. Their free, premium and self-serve offerings might underpin the internet, but the highly profitable offerings that are gated behind their sales teams are not getting sold. Too many of the clients that they should be selling to. Magic Transit (bring your own ASN), classic website DDoS protection (above the Business $200 tier, which has low, undisclosed data limits in…

This.

They lock a lot of features behind an Enterprise plan where they could allow them to be added to a lower plan.

In general, I just hate working with sales reps and would rather avoid a company altogether if I can’t sign up without talking to them.

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