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Re: Letting go of the idea of keeping up

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Every time Goodreads comes up on HN it sounds like a cross between Facebook and drug addiction. I am very glad that I care about as much about other peoples' opinions on the books I read as I do their opinions on my wanking technique.

One thing it's good for is when you read a book, hate it, and can find someone on Goodreads with a review that gripes about the exact same stuff you hated about it. Especially if the book in question is highly praised or award-winning. Do I need someone else to validate my hate-read of a book? No, but it scratches an itch.

I do this same thing for IMDb and Letterboxd, and it’s fun, I get to find others with similar tastes in movies and TV shows, and I appreciate reviews of content I like and dislike vicariously without having to feel badly about not having seen the content myself.

Re: Letting go of the idea of keeping up

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It's so strange because my experience is the opposite. I see a lot of content about reading and books (how there are no great books anymore, what was the best book, etc), fun facts and other trivia about authors, a few books getting made into movies (hello Dune, but I was thinking of the Martian and Ready Player One) ... but I don't see any of this cultural expectation, this peer pressure. (One of my friends keep rec…

> Okay, I saw Pikkety's Capital on a different friend's bookshelf.

He has some good things to say, but he wrote more than he had to to say them. That book is too big.

Re: Letting go of the idea of keeping up

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I'm in a weird position. Can anyone provide a summary of this article? I have all the time in the world to read things that are interesting (to me) and really absorb the content. But I've increasingly been noticing a "recipe article" trend with blog posts. People throw 100 words in when 10 will do. This article is an example. I've even gotten to the point with certain important blog posts where I copy paste the conte…

Ironically it’s because increasingly it’s 100 words generated by an LLM from a 10 word prompt. We’ve effectively found a way to keep entire datacenters humming to do nothing more than obfuscate signal in very expensive noise and the lossily try and extract it again.

To be fair, advertisement-economics already created that problem, but the degradation of communication in pursuit of lucre was done by human employees.

The technology changes just allow those companies to be more ruthlessly inane about it.

Some companies measure and human attention as an exploitable asset, yet individuals have a hard time controlling who takes it from them and how much... Is that a market failure? Or just a physiological one?

Re: Letting go of the idea of keeping up

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I'm in a weird position. Can anyone provide a summary of this article? I have all the time in the world to read things that are interesting (to me) and really absorb the content. But I've increasingly been noticing a "recipe article" trend with blog posts. People throw 100 words in when 10 will do. This article is an example. I've even gotten to the point with certain important blog posts where I copy paste the conte…

I often use the old trick of skipping to the end to see if there is a coherent conclusion, and if I think the conclusion is interesting, I’ll go back and pick my way through the body of the article. I agree with your points though in general. I think this is even worse with many non-fiction books. So much fluff when the main points could be summarized in 10 pages.

The worst fluff I think is from analogies/anecdotes that get spaced out because the author wants you to feel what it's like or something like that. I'm sure some readers really appreciate it, but when the author doesn't tell me what I should be looking for beforehand, I just don't have the patience.

Re: Letting go of the idea of keeping up

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

if you read 150 books a year you are well ahead of the crowd. However it would be tough to apply all 150 books contents to real life. If you enjoy reading keep doing it. I would love to be able to read 150 books or let alone make the time for it.

"it would be tough to apply all 150 books contents to real life." Why the hell would anybody want to do that? Do you feel some need to "apply every meal you eat to real life"? or to "apply every movie you watch"? Or every concert you hear, or every ballet you see? (I usually read books as a way to avoid "real life" for a while...)

Especially considering this "shitlit" label (which I love and immediately understand, because I read somewhere between 70 and 80 shitlit books last year). The shitlit that I read is totally inconsequential fiction that has no material bearing on life whatsoever. It's a form of entertainment that's analog, that's why I do it.

Re: Letting go of the idea of keeping up

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I read around 150 books a year. Most of it is what I like to call "shitlit", or alternatively inconsequential literature. This does not mean I am better or worse than anyone, just that my default state is reading. Friends eventually read books when recommended them and we talk about then. Reading shouldnt be a target, it should be for enjoyment. I enjoy shitlit, but others may not.

if you read 150 books a year you are well ahead of the crowd. However it would be tough to apply all 150 books contents to real life. If you enjoy reading keep doing it. I would love to be able to read 150 books or let alone make the time for it.

This is such a weird comment.

Ahead in what way? Reading more shitlit than anyone? I guess. It's clearly a time tradeoff, and you are probably "ahead" on something else besides book reading that you don't even think about.

I think even if you did find the time to read 150 books a year, you'd quickly be disappointed.

Re: Letting go of the idea of keeping up

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I'm in a weird position. Can anyone provide a summary of this article? I have all the time in the world to read things that are interesting (to me) and really absorb the content. But I've increasingly been noticing a "recipe article" trend with blog posts. People throw 100 words in when 10 will do. This article is an example. I've even gotten to the point with certain important blog posts where I copy paste the conte…

> Can anyone provide a summary of this article?

Well that’s too much work. But here is an LLM produced summary of the text:

Molly Templeton's article, "On Letting Go of the Idea of 'Keeping Up'," explores the pressures of contemporary reading culture, contrasting it with the joy of reading she experienced in childhood, symbolized by earning gold stars for each book read. She describes how, as an adult, reading has become entangled with competition, social performance, and the need to keep up with trends, turning the solitary pleasure of reading into a public performance marked by obligations and quantifiable achievements.

Templeton criticizes the way platforms like Goodreads have transformed reading into a task-oriented activity, where success is measured by the number of books read, detracting from the intrinsic value of reading itself. She shares personal anecdotes from her time in New York's bookish circles, where she felt the pressure to be well-read and current, highlighting the anxiety that can come with trying to meet external expectations.

Templeton recalls a turning point when being asked about her recent reads felt more like a competition than a shared interest, prompting her to reevaluate her relationship with reading. She argues for a reading culture that values personal experience over productivity, emphasizing that the number of books one reads should not dictate one's worth as a reader.

Templeton advocates stepping away from the competitive and overwhelming aspects of online book communities to reclaim reading as a personal, unquantifiable joy. Her reflections serve as a reminder that the true value of reading lies in the individual growth, enjoyment, and insights it provides, far beyond any statistic or social media status.

Re: Letting go of the idea of keeping up

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I read around 150 books a year. Most of it is what I like to call "shitlit", or alternatively inconsequential literature. This does not mean I am better or worse than anyone, just that my default state is reading. Friends eventually read books when recommended them and we talk about then. Reading shouldnt be a target, it should be for enjoyment. I enjoy shitlit, but others may not.

How does this work? Is it a book every two days? Or three books on the weekend? How long is your commute and how do you keep off YouTube/Netflix in the evening?

When you get in the habit of reading, it's remarkable how quickly you can do it. It's quite easy to read a book in a day when you read every day.

Re: Letting go of the idea of keeping up

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I'm in a weird position. Can anyone provide a summary of this article? I have all the time in the world to read things that are interesting (to me) and really absorb the content. But I've increasingly been noticing a "recipe article" trend with blog posts. People throw 100 words in when 10 will do. This article is an example. I've even gotten to the point with certain important blog posts where I copy paste the conte…

Not perfect, but helps to determine if something is worth the time: https://kagi.com/summarizer/index.html

Re: Letting go of the idea of keeping up

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I'm in a weird position. Can anyone provide a summary of this article? I have all the time in the world to read things that are interesting (to me) and really absorb the content. But I've increasingly been noticing a "recipe article" trend with blog posts. People throw 100 words in when 10 will do. This article is an example. I've even gotten to the point with certain important blog posts where I copy paste the conte…

Not perfect, but helps to determine if something is worth the time: https://kagi.com/summarizer/index.html

Kagi is one of the greatest quality of life improvements I've had in a while. Here hopes I'm putting my trust in the right place though, search history is one of the most personal and identifiable datasets possible
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