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Traffic deaths rise in U.S. cities despite billions spent to make streets safer

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Re: Traffic deaths rise in U.S. cities despite billions spent to make streets safer

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I wonder how much of the increase in fatal accidents is due to the increase in mobile phone use by drivers. The improvements in SS4A do not seem to address this.

The rest of the world has phones and they're not seeing what America is seeing. Not likely the cause.

It could then be how America does mobile phones. Mobile phones could still be a part of it.

Re: Traffic deaths rise in U.S. cities despite billions spent to make streets safer

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The pandemic was hard on people world wide, probably harder on people outside of America. Only America is seeing this trend. The pandemic and anti-social behaviour is not the cause. American people are not unique, but the built form of their cities and the type of cars they drive is. That is more likely the cause.

Some of the discourse in the U.S. is so weird. It simply pretends the rest of the world doesn’t exist. The classic Onion headline “‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens” refers to gun violence specifically but it applies to so much more in the U.S. I’m not really sure what causes Americans to behave this way.

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Re: Traffic deaths rise in U.S. cities despite billions spent to make streets safer

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>How about reversing those trends? How? Americans clearly want huge SUVs, and want to drive them very, very fast, and act like any effort to restrict these from them are attacks on their "freedoms". They even think it's an attack on their freedom if they have to pay for parking or for driving on a road.

Better road design. Speed humps, trees on the sides of the road, narrower roads, all of which will make drivers slow down simply because of the design of the road itself. No one's speeding on narrow roads, they'd be too likely to hit something.

How do you get people to adopt better road design? American drivers don't want this, and they'll vote against anyone who tries to push it (in most localities, not all).

Re: Traffic deaths rise in U.S. cities despite billions spent to make streets safer

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If the number of cars keeps increasing, so will the number of deaths. If the size of cars…. If the speed of cars…. How about reversing those trends?

That costs money and requires regulation. Since this is the United States, we know how those two things will be received.

The insurance industry could start to more heavily incentivize things based on the dangers, but they don’t. Or not enough.
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