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Why do people rely on automatic gearboxes to keep cars in place? Trusting the "park" position is like leaving a manual gearbox car in gear: it can do the job, but it's not the right tool for the purpose. The handbrake is there for a reason.
Why do people rely on automatic gearboxes to keep cars in place? Trusting the "park" position is like leaving a manual gearbox car in gear: it can do the job, but it's not the right tool for the purpose. The handbrake is there for a reason.
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As the owner of a 2017 Tucson that drinks a qt of oil every 600 miles or so, I agree. So many stories in the Hyundai / Kia Engine Failures FB group. That’s not even mentioning the downright dangerous DCT (transmission)
My neighbor was a mechanic and he said Honda had transition to a modular design and you could no longer replace a piece of the suspension or electrical system that was bad, you had to purchase an assembly. Which is why even minor repairs like a bad relay were $2000 repairs.
Don't new cars have automatic parking brakes? I drive a manual, and even if you park it in gear, with some bad luck and a slighly "worn down" engine, it'll roll, so most of the people just pull the hand brake.
I was taught in drivers education (California) to always set my parking brake because popping out of gear while parked was a common issue. I hope Kia and Hyundai learn from this and get OTA updates working for everything.
I was taught this as well, along with curbing my wheels. I have a young family member who was taught exactly the opposite -- setting the parking brake was "harmful" to the car somehow and not to do it.
> I hope Kia and Hyundai learn from this and get OTA updates working for everything.
I hope auto manufactures get away from the "we'll fix it in software" mentality.
I was interested in reading the actual cause of this failure, but that's an unusually vague description, unless they actually mean driveshafts that weren't fully inserted into the axle/transmission.
Relatedly, I far prefer the old mechanical parking brakes over the electronically-actuated ones which are common now, since you can actually feel them engage. Likewise for the park position of the transmission.
Why do people rely on automatic gearboxes to keep cars in place? Trusting the "park" position is like leaving a manual gearbox car in gear: it can do the job, but it's not the right tool for the purpose. The handbrake is there for a reason.
I use both in a manual. Cheap insurance. Handbrake, and in gear in case the handbrake fails. But I’ve never seen the driver of an automatic set the parking brake. Never. That gear is “park” so they use it when they park. Only driving manuals, I have to really remind myself not to in somebody else’s car because it is probably going to stick as a result of never being used.
Why do people rely on automatic gearboxes to keep cars in place? Trusting the "park" position is like leaving a manual gearbox car in gear: it can do the job, but it's not the right tool for the purpose. The handbrake is there for a reason.
I use both in a manual. Cheap insurance. Handbrake, and in gear in case the handbrake fails. But I’ve never seen the driver of an automatic set the parking brake. Never. That gear is “park” so they use it when they park. Only driving manuals, I have to really remind myself not to in somebody else’s car because it is probably going to stick as a result of never being used.
I'm guessing it starts as a habit, they either weren't taught in driving class or it wasn't enforced, then it became ingrained and they never got curious about what they could be wrong about,or what it means that their car rocks when they step out.
Even with a "car guy" who was working on my rear wheels (fwd) he asked if I had AWD. No buddy, I just remembered to set the brake before you got it up on the jack.
For curious readers, if you always park on level ground, just set the brake anyway as a drill. If it's busted, you'll get a chance to fix it before you need it
I also always turn my headlights on. It uses a little more gas but saves the judgement call of wondering whether it's real dark enough or whether the computer will turn them on for me. Always on.
My 2020 Palisade rolled down a hill after I had parked it with my wife and dog still inside. It rolled over my leg and foot, and I had to go to the hospital. My wife had jumped from the passenger seat to the driver's to stomp on the brakes as it slammed into the car behind us. Transmission grinding away as it rolled down the hill. Could not recommend the experience less.
A Palisade is a Hyundai for anyone else who didn’t know. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyundai_Palisade
My 2020 Palisade rolled down a hill after I had parked it with my wife and dog still inside. It rolled over my leg and foot, and I had to go to the hospital. My wife had jumped from the passenger seat to the driver's to stomp on the brakes as it slammed into the car behind us. Transmission grinding away as it rolled down the hill. Could not recommend the experience less.