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This ancient text is tiring, it is almost word for word what has been posted over the past 20 years. You did not even bother to update the numbers or change the wording. You have the honor of getting my 2nd down vote.
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NetBSD 10.0 Released
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Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#22I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
So you would only "expose yourself", specially a quite low friction action of trying a new piece of software, if you know someone who already "wasted their time" on it? Do you use the same criteria with every piece of software? What's your point?
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#23I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
For FreeBSD, search for Netflix Open Connect appliance. Also, follow @cperciva
For OpenBSD, build a router+firewall for your home.
For FreeBSD jails networking here is a post for a two server infra https://blog.uirig.com/freebsd-jails-network-setup
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#24I've never used NetBSD, but this announcement is rekindling my desire to install it on my old PowerBook G4.
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#25I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
Arguably, macOS is a BSD variant. Much of the userspace UNIX utilities and a lot of the networking stack were forked from FreeBSD. Although it's not the nicest showing, because Apple doesn't pull updates very frequently; a two decade old TCP stack has a lot of issues, Apple added MPTCP and nice PMTUD, but doesn't have SYN cookies, so I wouldn't run a public server with it.
Maybe you can find a BSD shell account somewhere? But otherwise, yeah, you need to run a BSD to experience it. How woulr you experience Linux without a Linux machine? There's live cds and virtual machine images and what nots for BSDs too.
I can't say if its worth your time or not. Not a lot of companies run production on FreeBSD anymore, unfortunately. Yahoo was midway through switching when I left, WhatsApp was almost done when I left. I'm happier running FreeBSD on my personal equipment than I was with Debian, but that makes it worthwhile for me, not you. Switching OSes is a long process and living in multiple OSes at the same time isn't easy. I use Linux for work, so I have to go back and forth between ifconfig on my home boxes and production Linux, but ip addr on my dev box. And sometimes netstat and sometimes ss, etc. It'd be nicer if everything was consistent and didn't change for what seems like the sake of change, but it is what it is.
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#26Awesome news!
I've been running a few versions of the RCs for NetBSD 10 on a Pine RockPro64. A few reasons NetBSD 10 is a good choice for this Aarch64 device:
- Handles ARM's big.LITTLE well. You can use /usr/sbin/schedctl -A 4,5 to pin a process to the fast cores.
- Generally rock solid -- I've had uptimes in months and generally only rebooted when I upgraded. Like today!
- Can boot from an eMMC instead of an SD card.
- Supports the PCIe card. I have an SSD adapter. You can even use ZFS.
- HDMI support.
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#27I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
So you would only "expose yourself", specially a quite low friction action of trying a new piece of software, if you know someone who already "wasted their time" on it? Do you use the same criteria with every piece of software? What's your point?
Hmm. I wasn’t trying to make a point. I was asking a question. What is your point?
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#28I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
Why not play with one in a VM?
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#29I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
Try something that’s unique to one BSD or another. For example, NetBSD supports Lua for kernel scripting[1] and Veriexec[2] for checking the integrity of executables.
Re: NetBSD 10.0 Released
#30I am really quite heavily involved in the tech sector, across a lot of domains. I don’t know a soul who runs a BSD variant. How can I expose myself to this arena beyond making a BSD box… which seems like a waste of time at the moment.
Arguably, macOS is a BSD variant. Much of the userspace UNIX utilities and a lot of the networking stack were forked from FreeBSD. Although it's not the nicest showing, because Apple doesn't pull updates very frequently; a two decade old TCP stack has a lot of issues, Apple added MPTCP and nice PMTUD, but doesn't have SYN cookies, so I wouldn't run a public server with it. Maybe you can find a BSD shell account somew…
macOS is a fair candidate. Second hand Mac can be cheap, esp Intel-based. Hackintosh / VM is also a candidate.
OPNsense, PFsense, TrueNAS, Sony Playstation, Nintendo Switch, Juniper, Ruckus/Brocade, ...
Give OPNsense (in a VM) a whirl as replacement for OpenWrt. I like it a lot.
> I use Linux for work, so I have to go back and forth between ifconfig on my home boxes and production Linux, but ip addr on my dev box. And sometimes netstat and sometimes ss, etc. It'd be nicer if everything was consistent and didn't change for what seems like the sake of change, but it is what it is.
macOS/Linux users might like this wrapper [1]. I don't know one for ss/netstat though.