I would love to see a study on how banning social media impacts ADHD symptoms. The current wisdom is as soon as a diagnosis is made: go straight on the meds because there is minimal side-effects. So environmental modifications as treatment are not explored. Plus, once meds are involved, you now have a stimulant dependence to deal with too involving a afternoon crash, and increased anxiety, etc. Then your on anti-depr…
ADHD Stimulants May Increase Risk of Heart Damage in Young Adults
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Re: ADHD Stimulants May Increase Risk of Heart Damage in Young Adults
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, in light cases it might help, but mostly you see news/social media amplifying ableistic "look at , they're managing, why aren't you? it's obviously your lifestyle choices" But talk to any people who actually have ADHD and you'll realize that this doesn't help anyone: ADHD doesn't mean "easily distracted", it means "inability to maintain control over focus", and taking distractions away doesn't make this even ma…
If someone had a broken arm you wouldn't tell them to exercise that arm more and that it's fine. Or that back in time people didnt had casts and they were fine. I don't understand why so many people act otherwise when it does come to issues you can't see. I don't have ADHD but I have friends who do. And no it's not a question of willpower they need meds to function. So I'm very sensitive when it comes to people sayin…
Once you start taking meds you develop dependence and so your definitely need them.
But if there was a simpler environmental cause/solution, now that is out of reach entirely. It would take years for their mind to re-balance.
If you tried everything and nothing worked, then go for the meds, and take on the risks and side-effects.
But no one does this. They get diagnosed and then straight on meds for the rest of their life.
Re: ADHD Stimulants May Increase Risk of Heart Damage in Young Adults
#23I would love to see a study on how banning social media impacts ADHD symptoms. The current wisdom is as soon as a diagnosis is made: go straight on the meds because there is minimal side-effects. So environmental modifications as treatment are not explored. Plus, once meds are involved, you now have a stimulant dependence to deal with too involving a afternoon crash, and increased anxiety, etc. Then your on anti-depr…
1. You cannot reasonably ban social media at this point. 2. Where are antidepressant coming from? 3. Non-stimulating meds exist. Feeding amphetamines to a kid isnt smart. 4. Would you tell someone who got an organ transplant to not take immunosuppressors because he will be dependent on them? ofc you wouldnt.
You can block it and measure consumption. This is easy.
> 2. antidepressant
Originally stims weren't suppose to be used if someone is depressed. But now heaps of people are on both. If you are spiking dopamine you are bound to have a crash and the symptoms of it. There is a lot of reports of this. This crash can feel like depression. So its like a cycle of one drug covering for another.
> 4. Would you tell someone...
What is the _organ transplant event_ analagous to in an ADHD scenario? Does not fit.
Re: ADHD Stimulants May Increase Risk of Heart Damage in Young Adults
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
1. You cannot reasonably ban social media at this point. 2. Where are antidepressant coming from? 3. Non-stimulating meds exist. Feeding amphetamines to a kid isnt smart. 4. Would you tell someone who got an organ transplant to not take immunosuppressors because he will be dependent on them? ofc you wouldnt.
> You cannot reasonably ban social media at this point You can block it and measure consumption. This is easy. > 2. antidepressant Originally stims weren't suppose to be used if someone is depressed. But now heaps of people are on both. If you are spiking dopamine you are bound to have a crash and the symptoms of it. There is a lot of reports of this. This crash can feel like depression. So its like a cycle of one dr…
Re: ADHD Stimulants May Increase Risk of Heart Damage in Young Adults
#25How is this news? Monitoring heart condition is part of ADHD medication management day 1? confused
yeah, this was the reason I had to stop. Because the doc said "you'll need to have a cardiac report next time or you won't get new pill" to an ADHD patient with no organizational skills. I never went again unfortunately. Oh how I miss it
Re: ADHD Stimulants May Increase Risk of Heart Damage in Young Adults
#26I would love to see a study on how banning social media impacts ADHD symptoms. The current wisdom is as soon as a diagnosis is made: go straight on the meds because there is minimal side-effects. So environmental modifications as treatment are not explored. Plus, once meds are involved, you now have a stimulant dependence to deal with too involving a afternoon crash, and increased anxiety, etc. Then your on anti-depr…
Most of my ADHD social circle does in fact not use any social media. Reading/posting on HN does kinda count tho, I guess.
Re: ADHD Stimulants May Increase Risk of Heart Damage in Young Adults
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, in light cases it might help, but mostly you see news/social media amplifying ableistic "look at , they're managing, why aren't you? it's obviously your lifestyle choices" But talk to any people who actually have ADHD and you'll realize that this doesn't help anyone: ADHD doesn't mean "easily distracted", it means "inability to maintain control over focus", and taking distractions away doesn't make this even ma…
> mostly you see news/social media amplifying ableistic... It's actually the opposite. It is now practically forbidden to criticize anything related with ADHD. After reading all the literature I concluded there were huge problems with almost every aspect of it. Then you go try to tell people and you are tarred and feathered. Then look at incentives: on one side is: "a citizen concerned that maybe taking stimulant med…
Re: ADHD Stimulants May Increase Risk of Heart Damage in Young Adults
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
yeah, this was the reason I had to stop. Because the doc said "you'll need to have a cardiac report next time or you won't get new pill" to an ADHD patient with no organizational skills. I never went again unfortunately. Oh how I miss it
I’m in my first month of meds and I’d do anything that’s necessary to keep taking them. I get it’s a catch 22 sometimes, especially trying to get diagnosed as an adult, but the benefits in my life have been immense. I’d encourage you to muster the willpower (that we feel we lack so often) and book it if you can afford it. It took me years to get to this point and I wish I had done it sooner. Life is short, allow your…
Re: ADHD Stimulants May Increase Risk of Heart Damage in Young Adults
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, in light cases it might help, but mostly you see news/social media amplifying ableistic "look at , they're managing, why aren't you? it's obviously your lifestyle choices" But talk to any people who actually have ADHD and you'll realize that this doesn't help anyone: ADHD doesn't mean "easily distracted", it means "inability to maintain control over focus", and taking distractions away doesn't make this even ma…
> mostly you see news/social media amplifying ableistic... It's actually the opposite. It is now practically forbidden to criticize anything related with ADHD. After reading all the literature I concluded there were huge problems with almost every aspect of it. Then you go try to tell people and you are tarred and feathered. Then look at incentives: on one side is: "a citizen concerned that maybe taking stimulant med…
Re: ADHD Stimulants May Increase Risk of Heart Damage in Young Adults
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
If someone had a broken arm you wouldn't tell them to exercise that arm more and that it's fine. Or that back in time people didnt had casts and they were fine. I don't understand why so many people act otherwise when it does come to issues you can't see. I don't have ADHD but I have friends who do. And no it's not a question of willpower they need meds to function. So I'm very sensitive when it comes to people sayin…
> they need meds to function Once you start taking meds you develop dependence and so your definitely need them. But if there was a simpler environmental cause/solution, now that is out of reach entirely. It would take years for their mind to re-balance. If you tried everything and nothing worked, then go for the meds, and take on the risks and side-effects. But no one does this. They get diagnosed and then straight…
In this generality, this statement is plain false folk tale. It certainly applies for some conditions and treatments, but without a study to back it up you should not be making this statement in regards to ADHD and its medications.
> If you tried everything and nothing worked, then go for the meds, and take on the risks and side-effects. But no one does this. They get diagnosed and then straight on meds for the rest of their life.
This is equally untrue. I can't make statements about other places and health care systems, but where I live they throw the kitchen sink at you for about a year or two before they progressively walk you up to the more "extreme" medication if nothing else helped.