94 and 95 masks and true Hepa filters are the best methods vs COVID. Hepa helps a lot against all respiratory viruses to slow spread in families, workplaces and communal spaces.
Scientists traced a mysterious Covid case back to six toilets
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Re: Scientists traced a mysterious Covid case back to six toilets
#22I'm honestly of the opinion that all of the ethical questions that arose during this search are fairly minuscule compared to the potential findings that could help us end this never-ending outbreak altogether. (At least by developing better targets for drugs like Paxlovid, if their hypothesis about GI tract replication turns out to be correct.) Of them all the potential to reveal that the patient X is hiding their HI…
There is nothing that can help us "end" the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) outbreak. A highly infectious respiratory virus with multiple animal reservoirs can't be eradicated or even really contained. At this point it's just one more of several endemic human coronaviruses and will always be around in some variants, much like HCoV-OC43.
Re: Scientists traced a mysterious Covid case back to six toilets
#23> could it mean that the massive covid infection in the gut didn’t show up on a nasal swab? Shouldn’t they have known that beforehand? Isn’t that a big red flag in this entire endeavor?
Covid is supposedly a respiratory tract infection, so who'd be expecting it to only show up in the gut? It seems they still don't know whether that is in fact the explanation.
> Covid is supposedly a respiratory tract infection, so who'd be expecting it to only show up in the gut?
That's the thing with SARS-CoV-2.
It's primarily transmitted by aerosols, but it has also been shown to be transmitted via smearing. It's primarily a respiratory tract infection, but it has also been shown to have intestinal, cardiovascular and neurological impact as well as persistence in these tissues [1].
And yet, despite 7 millions of people dead and dozens of millions of people suffering from long covid, there's almost no prevention mechanisms in force anywhere on this planet, even vaccine development and rollout have all but ground to a halt. It's like we learned nothing at all from the pandemic, our politicians just wanted to make it go away by pretending it went away.
Re: Scientists traced a mysterious Covid case back to six toilets
#24I'm honestly of the opinion that all of the ethical questions that arose during this search are fairly minuscule compared to the potential findings that could help us end this never-ending outbreak altogether. (At least by developing better targets for drugs like Paxlovid, if their hypothesis about GI tract replication turns out to be correct.) Of them all the potential to reveal that the patient X is hiding their HI…
There is nothing that can help us "end" the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) outbreak. A highly infectious respiratory virus with multiple animal reservoirs can't be eradicated or even really contained. At this point it's just one more of several endemic human coronaviruses and will always be around in some variants, much like HCoV-OC43.
> There is nothing that can help us "end" the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) outbreak.
We could massively mitigate its effects to the point we could actually live with the virus without risking the often debilitating effects it can have.
On a societal/systemic level: HEPA air filters in hospitals, care homes, public transport, schools, churches, generally any indoors place where large amounts of people gather would not just drastically cut down on transmission of pathogens of all kind, but also make the lives of people suffering from allergies so much easier. We put a lot of care into regulating our food, water, even our clothing to be free of pathogens and contaminants - but the air we breathe daily is barely regulated at all!
On an individual level, we could wash our goddamn hands more often (I'd be really interested in, but probably also really disgusted by a study on soap and towel consumption in large office buildings before, during and after the pandemic), wear masks in public transport, and stay the fuck home when sick - although I realize that this is all but impossible in the US with there not being a federal law that allows people to stay home when sick with anything without risking of getting fired. Here in Germany, it's no big deal.
Instead, our politicians seem to have completely given up any idea of dealing with covid.
Re: Scientists traced a mysterious Covid case back to six toilets
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Covid is supposedly a respiratory tract infection, so who'd be expecting it to only show up in the gut? It seems they still don't know whether that is in fact the explanation.
> Covid is supposedly a respiratory tract infection, so who'd be expecting it to only show up in the gut? That's the thing with SARS-CoV-2. It's primarily transmitted by aerosols, but it has also been shown to be transmitted via smearing. It's primarily a respiratory tract infection, but it has also been shown to have intestinal, cardiovascular and neurological impact as well as persistence in these tissues [1]. And…
> long covid
Sadly the politicians are trying to wave that one away as well...
Re: Scientists traced a mysterious Covid case back to six toilets
#26always close the toilet lid before you flush...
https://akm-img-a-in.tosshub.com/indiatoday/2022-12/ezgif-3-...
Re: Scientists traced a mysterious Covid case back to six toilets
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This comment should probably be flagged, honestly. Most well-meaning and respectful comments can help add a little bit to the discussion on HN....but this one is a very, very rare exception due to being so terribly factually off-base.
Methane, Chlorine, and Vinegar absolutely are not "primary methods of virus dispersal".
Feel free to link your writings, however. They could probably use a good, thoughtful, and well-meaning critique.
Re: Scientists traced a mysterious Covid case back to six toilets
#2894 and 95 masks and true Hepa filters are the best methods vs COVID. Hepa helps a lot against all respiratory viruses to slow spread in families, workplaces and communal spaces.
What are "94 masks"?
Re: Scientists traced a mysterious Covid case back to six toilets
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
There is nothing that can help us "end" the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) outbreak. A highly infectious respiratory virus with multiple animal reservoirs can't be eradicated or even really contained. At this point it's just one more of several endemic human coronaviruses and will always be around in some variants, much like HCoV-OC43.
> There is nothing that can help us "end" the SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) outbreak. We could massively mitigate its effects to the point we could actually live with the virus without risking the often debilitating effects it can have. On a societal/systemic level: HEPA air filters in hospitals, care homes, public transport, schools, churches, generally any indoors place where large amounts of people gather would not just d…
It seems clear at this point that Covid (the latest variants in the wild, at any rate) does not cause "often debilitating effects", and so any mitigation must have its costs, which are very high for any easily-transmissible respiratory illness, weighed against its benefits, which are pretty low.
Remember: "there are no solutions, only tradeoffs." Otherwise, we should just plug everyone into VR pods a la The Matrix and be done with disease once and for all.