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Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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For people who didn't know: Wiz is apparently a internal framework that Google uses for their apps that wasn't ever open sourced (at least, not completely, based on a quick search). At least they'll be dogfooding Angular now hopefully.

I thought some teams at Google were dogfooding Angular for many years now?

I can say from experience that Google requires third-parties use Angular when they are developing experiences on behalf of Google — i.e. through their agency partners.

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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post #12

Off topic, but is there any chance to avoid sharing Twitter links? Would rather not log in to the site

i'm with you, i used to use nitter with the firefox extension, but it seems to be dying, is there any alternative?

There is https://twstalker.com/ but the site is very very dodgy.

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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post #18
post #12

Off topic, but is there any chance to avoid sharing Twitter links? Would rather not log in to the site

In this case I spent 5 minutes trying to find a different source but the tweet thread is the best I could find unfortunately. There is no official blog post afaiu.

Why not post a direct link to the video that the tweet embeds?

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

#24
post #5

For people who didn't know: Wiz is apparently a internal framework that Google uses for their apps that wasn't ever open sourced (at least, not completely, based on a quick search). At least they'll be dogfooding Angular now hopefully.

From the presentation: Angular is for "enterprise" apps. Wiz is for latency sensitive consumer apps (Google Search, Google Meet, Photos). They also mentioned Wiz is tightly integrated with the Google tech stack.

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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post #5

For people who didn't know: Wiz is apparently a internal framework that Google uses for their apps that wasn't ever open sourced (at least, not completely, based on a quick search). At least they'll be dogfooding Angular now hopefully.

I thought some teams at Google were dogfooding Angular for many years now?

Lots have been [0,1]

0, https://changelog.com/jsparty/310

1, https://changelog.com/jsparty/312

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

#26
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In this case I spent 5 minutes trying to find a different source but the tweet thread is the best I could find unfortunately. There is no official blog post afaiu.

Why not post a direct link to the video that the tweet embeds?

I have considered this as well but the video is a whole keynote about various things. Was not an easy decision.

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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I hate Angular with a passion. It's easily the most verbose, overly complex front end framework I've ever used which just takes the fun out of building web apps and make it a pure pain. I would rather work on a farm and shovel pig shit all day than work in Angular again. My last job forced Angular on me, I quit after a while (not because of solely that reason) but I told them Angular was a bad choice and they chose t…

I've been working with large Angular projects for years and I really enjoy the development experience.

Especially now with the new template syntax, signals, and other recent changes.

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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post #15

I hate Angular with a passion. It's easily the most verbose, overly complex front end framework I've ever used which just takes the fun out of building web apps and make it a pure pain. I would rather work on a farm and shovel pig shit all day than work in Angular again. My last job forced Angular on me, I quit after a while (not because of solely that reason) but I told them Angular was a bad choice and they chose t…

I seldom see this opinion but I'm glad to read it. People complain about JSX on the React side but what on Earth am I reading when I see the templating language that Angular came up with? ngIf, ngBlah. Much worse than JSX, which is subordinate to JavaScript code, not equal. I also have been forced to use Angular at the workplace and it killed any fun making web apps had. People say Angular is great for enterprise bec…

> the templating language that Angular came up with? ngIf, ngBlah

The new templating syntax is simply @if () @else () ... it makes it much clearer to read in many cases.

I never had a problem with *ngIf as long as you are controlling the visibility of one element. It became messy when you needed "else" statements in there.

Re: Google: Angular and Wiz Are Merging

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Exciting? Possibly for those involved. I hate to say this, as I'm generally optimistic towards most developments like this, but over the last decade I've become so apathetic towards anything and everything from Google. They've lost so much mindshare and credibility. Their org structure leads to stagnation left, right and centre. I'd rather tolerate the poor status quo in React land than take any sort of bet on Google…

It was mostly always like this. You might go back further, but since 2008 I've been dealing with google snake-oil. They sold a customer I worked with a "search appliance" in 2007 that was more or less a paperweight. They packaged up "commodity hardware" in a fancy yellow google case and overcharged this military unit out the ass for what was a half-assed map-reduce algorithm with no security and no means of compartmentalizing the data that was stored on the appliance. This was years before the elk-stack. I can still distinctly remember the commander - an old special forces guy - telling the google-rep that he wanted to do a Roshambo game (Cartman nut kicking contest). A year or so later I cracked open their case and saw that they'd essentially packaged up an old dell poweredge 6K series with slow magnetic drives (and raid-5 lol). Maybe that fly's if you'd chained fifteen of these things into a cluster but that's not how they sold them to their customers. Google is a dishonest company filled with immoral lechers.
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