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Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

iamjake648 wrote: post #15
superkuh wrote: post #2

A good first step to the chicken and egg problem. Living in Wisconsin I have never seen an electrical charging station. >Local government entities and state agencies would not be allowed to operate public charging stations but could run their own stations to charge their vehicles. I'm confused at why this was included in the regulation. Would companies really refuse to build stations without this stipulation? It remi…

Eau Claire, WI - a pretty small town has at least three DCFC - EA, Tesla & a local electric company plus tons of level 2 all over. > I'm confused at why this was included in the regulation The WI GOP. At least you can pay by the kWh in WI now instead of by the minute with this law.

Eau Claire is the biggest settlement at the junction point where Minneapolis travelers either go to Wausau and the UP, or to Milwaukee/Chicago.

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by xyst »

nunez wrote: post #17

GOOD! I wish anti-EV states would follow suit. EV chargers are a landmine for business/income taxes. Unlike a gas station, people have to wait at least 15 minutes to charge their vehicle. You could have TikTok-theaters (theaters that show trending videos across TikTok), pop-ups, restaurants, etc.

> You could have TikTok-theaters (theaters that show trending videos across TikTok), pop-ups, restaurants, etc.

Thanks, I hate it. So you want to turn these ev charging spots into the equivalent of strip malls and billboards.

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by infamouscow »

xyst wrote: post #19

I hate how we are doubling down on car centric transportation. Whether it’s an ICE or EV. At the end of the day, it’s another car on the road. We take one step further with reducing or zeroing out tail pipe emissions. But take 3 steps backwards because department of ~~~highway~~~ transportation engineers feel the need to expand the expensive highways to accommodate increased demand. Ignoring all historical evidence t…

Massive changes to how most people think about anything in society are non-starters. Doubly-so with something as central to the American lifestyle like transportation.

I don't understand why this is so difficult for some people to grasp.

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by m463 »

throwaway48476 wrote: post #18

My city spent a stupid amount of money to build 13 slow chargers across the city based on public feedback. I have zero faith that this will fare any better. The best EV charger is the one installed in the home. If the government actually wanted to spur adoption it would be through easing permitting and creating boilerplate contract language for apartment and condo chargers.

I tried traveling with a nissan leaf ev (24kwh) a couple years ago, and it was COMPLETELY impractical. It was just a stupid leap of faith with giant portions of luck and silly time wasting. 3rd party charging services suck. They have few chargers, they have few stalls and terrible information about them. (The worst was blink, virtually always broken)

And then I tried a couple years later with tesla, and it was a completely different experience. Telsas have large batteries, the chargers are very plentiful along most routes, have many stalls, and are dependable.

I came to realize having a non-telsa ev is really a waste of time unless you can charge at home and stay in range.

So anything to create a reliable network to travel I think is a good idea (for non-tesla cars)

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by typewithrhythm »

xyst wrote: post #19

I hate how we are doubling down on car centric transportation. Whether it’s an ICE or EV. At the end of the day, it’s another car on the road. We take one step further with reducing or zeroing out tail pipe emissions. But take 3 steps backwards because department of ~~~highway~~~ transportation engineers feel the need to expand the expensive highways to accommodate increased demand. Ignoring all historical evidence t…

Not everyone is a socialist, or high density enthusiast. Personally I want the local government to only spend money in ways that result in people being more independent of a dense centre, that allows people to have more control over their immediate environment, and less impact from neibours.

Roads and highways are worth the expense, I am not convinced when it comes to many other public infrastructure or services.

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by i80and »

m463 wrote: post #24
throwaway48476 wrote: post #18

My city spent a stupid amount of money to build 13 slow chargers across the city based on public feedback. I have zero faith that this will fare any better. The best EV charger is the one installed in the home. If the government actually wanted to spur adoption it would be through easing permitting and creating boilerplate contract language for apartment and condo chargers.

I tried traveling with a nissan leaf ev (24kwh) a couple years ago, and it was COMPLETELY impractical. It was just a stupid leap of faith with giant portions of luck and silly time wasting. 3rd party charging services suck. They have few chargers, they have few stalls and terrible information about them. (The worst was blink, virtually always broken) And then I tried a couple years later with tesla, and it was a comp…

I traveled round trip between NJ and MI last year using Electrify America with my ID.4. It was fine, no real pain points -- EA's been improving pretty aggressively in my experience, and I think we're broadly in pretty good shape.

I charge exclusively using public chargers.

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by kcnenskcfn »

xyst wrote: post #19

I hate how we are doubling down on car centric transportation. Whether it’s an ICE or EV. At the end of the day, it’s another car on the road. We take one step further with reducing or zeroing out tail pipe emissions. But take 3 steps backwards because department of ~~~highway~~~ transportation engineers feel the need to expand the expensive highways to accommodate increased demand. Ignoring all historical evidence t…

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Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by baggy_trough »

xyst wrote: post #19

I hate how we are doubling down on car centric transportation. Whether it’s an ICE or EV. At the end of the day, it’s another car on the road. We take one step further with reducing or zeroing out tail pipe emissions. But take 3 steps backwards because department of ~~~highway~~~ transportation engineers feel the need to expand the expensive highways to accommodate increased demand. Ignoring all historical evidence t…

> We wAnT mOrE eXpEnSiVe RoAdS aNd hIgHwAyS aNd fReE pArKiNg GaRaGeS!!111

Yes, we want these things, because cars are overwhelmingly popular.

Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by [deleted] »

xyst wrote: post #19

I hate how we are doubling down on car centric transportation. Whether it’s an ICE or EV. At the end of the day, it’s another car on the road. We take one step further with reducing or zeroing out tail pipe emissions. But take 3 steps backwards because department of ~~~highway~~~ transportation engineers feel the need to expand the expensive highways to accommodate increased demand. Ignoring all historical evidence t…

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Re: Governor signs bills creating EV charging station network across Wisconsin

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Post by alextheterrible »

xyst wrote: post #19

I hate how we are doubling down on car centric transportation. Whether it’s an ICE or EV. At the end of the day, it’s another car on the road. We take one step further with reducing or zeroing out tail pipe emissions. But take 3 steps backwards because department of ~~~highway~~~ transportation engineers feel the need to expand the expensive highways to accommodate increased demand. Ignoring all historical evidence t…

> We wAnT mOrE eXpEnSiVe RoAdS aNd hIgHwAyS

You bet. Plenty of choo choo trains available to ride in Europe and Asia.

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