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Re: European Union AI Act

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Post by Ukv »

soco wrote: post #15
ianbicking wrote: post #14

Until reading this article I hadn't realized that emotion detection is banned (edit: but confirmed only in workplaces and educational institutions) I've had it on my list to try integrating Hume.ai ( https://www.hume.ai/ ) into a prototype educational environment I've been playing with. The entirety of their product is emotion detection, so this must be concerning for them. My own desire is to experiment with somethi…

Here's a beginner question: what's the big difference between emotion perception and sentiment analysis (which is offered everywhere)? Sentiment goes only plus/minus and emotion produces multidimensional charts?

Emotion recognition is based on biometric data like facial expression, whereas sentiment analysis would typically be about text:

> The notion of emotion recognition system for the purpose of this regulation should be defined as an AI system for the purpose of identifying or inferring emotions or intentions of natural persons on the basis of their biometric data.

Re: European Union AI Act

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Post by [deleted] »

huqedato wrote: post #3
hipadev23 wrote: post #2

EU tech legislation is comical at this point. A bunch of rules that almost nobody follows and at best they fine FAANG companies a few hours of revenue.

EU legislators are totally detached from reality, it can be seen that they do not understand what is the matter with AI, for them it is just "another IT tool" that can be "regulated". As always: US innovates, EU regulates.

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Re: European Union AI Act

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Post by [deleted] »

yinser wrote: post #12
Rinzler89 wrote: post #7

It's sad the comments here bashing this haven't understood the regulation, or haven't even read it and are just slamming it because in their mind EU REGULATION=BAD, AI=GOOD INNOVATION. EU AI regulation isn't there to stop AI innovation, it's only there to restrict where and when AI can be used on decisions that affect people. For example, you can't deny someone healthcare, a bank account, a rental, unemployment payme…

Most of the comments here recognize the risks of vague and broad language versus writing targeted legislation for current problems and updating as things progress.

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Re: European Union AI Act

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Post by input_sh »

sschueller wrote: post #16
Rinzler89 wrote: post #7

It's sad the comments here bashing this haven't understood the regulation, or haven't even read it and are just slamming it because in their mind EU REGULATION=BAD, AI=GOOD INNOVATION. EU AI regulation isn't there to stop AI innovation, it's only there to restrict where and when AI can be used on decisions that affect people. For example, you can't deny someone healthcare, a bank account, a rental, unemployment payme…

People also don't realize that this can happen without AI (insurance companies data mining for example) so such a law is a good thing.

Data mining was already addressed. There's a copyright exception that says you can data mine publicly accessible stuff, as well as outlining who can do that and for what purposes (mostly scientific).

2019 Directive for Copyright in the Digital Single Market, articles 3 and 4. The two regulations kinda complement each other.

Re: European Union AI Act

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Post by ideashower »

input_sh wrote: post #24
sschueller wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

People also don't realize that this can happen without AI (insurance companies data mining for example) so such a law is a good thing.

Data mining was already addressed. There's a copyright exception that says you can data mine publicly accessible stuff, as well as outlining who can do that and for what purposes (mostly scientific). 2019 Directive for Copyright in the Digital Single Market, articles 3 and 4. The two regulations kinda complement each other.

By chance, is there a list anywhere of the various regulations the EU has implemented to regulate tech companies? It's really phenomenal work, and I'd love to read about the arc of it all.

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Post by Yizahi »

Rinzler89 wrote: post #7

It's sad the comments here bashing this haven't understood the regulation, or haven't even read it and are just slamming it because in their mind EU REGULATION=BAD, AI=GOOD INNOVATION. EU AI regulation isn't there to stop AI innovation, it's only there to restrict where and when AI can be used on decisions that affect people. For example, you can't deny someone healthcare, a bank account, a rental, unemployment payme…

People who are supporting the most egregious overreach by corpos, don't think that they themselves will ever be harmed by such corpo. But just in case if they ever become a multitrillionaire genius innovator, they proactively don't want some pesky laws to restrict their potential future mansions and giant yachts.

Re: European Union AI Act

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Post by Yizahi »

yinser wrote: post #12
Rinzler89 wrote: post #7

It's sad the comments here bashing this haven't understood the regulation, or haven't even read it and are just slamming it because in their mind EU REGULATION=BAD, AI=GOOD INNOVATION. EU AI regulation isn't there to stop AI innovation, it's only there to restrict where and when AI can be used on decisions that affect people. For example, you can't deny someone healthcare, a bank account, a rental, unemployment payme…

Most of the comments here recognize the risks of vague and broad language versus writing targeted legislation for current problems and updating as things progress.

So vague and broad private data scrapping and private data selling is fine, but vague and broad laws restring said activities is not?

PS: by private I mean licensed by any license except for "free for all" and/or completely private.

Re: European Union AI Act

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Post by fakedang »

Yizahi wrote: post #26
Rinzler89 wrote: post #7

It's sad the comments here bashing this haven't understood the regulation, or haven't even read it and are just slamming it because in their mind EU REGULATION=BAD, AI=GOOD INNOVATION. EU AI regulation isn't there to stop AI innovation, it's only there to restrict where and when AI can be used on decisions that affect people. For example, you can't deny someone healthcare, a bank account, a rental, unemployment payme…

People who are supporting the most egregious overreach by corpos, don't think that they themselves will ever be harmed by such corpo. But just in case if they ever become a multitrillionaire genius innovator, they proactively don't want some pesky laws to restrict their potential future mansions and giant yachts.

This right here describes the sentiment of a lot of folks on this site. I surmise a lot of folks here bashing the regulations wouldn't be too happy if say an AI HR decided that their performance was below par, and then when their job search later gets affected by some AI recruiter who eliminates based on resume keywords (well it's already happening today).

Re: European Union AI Act

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Post by evantbyrne »

goldfeld wrote: post #4
hipadev23 wrote: post #2

EU tech legislation is comical at this point. A bunch of rules that almost nobody follows and at best they fine FAANG companies a few hours of revenue.

I think they have it much better than over at faangland

Who is "they"? EU tech companies and their workers definitely don't have it better than American ones

Re: European Union AI Act

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Post by goldfeld »

evantbyrne wrote: post #29
goldfeld wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think they have it much better than over at faangland

Who is "they"? EU tech companies and their workers definitely don't have it better than American ones

Tech companies are not the first concern of civilization at least not insofar as I don't know of any philosophical strain establishing them as kings and overlords.
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