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Re: Nvidia founder tells Stanford students their high expectations is a hindrance

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Post by Draiken » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 5:16 PM UTC

Ninjinka wrote: post #17

nimbius wrote: post #15

Huangs net worth is $80 billion. Hes literally one of the richest people in the world and arguably the least qualified to address the public in any form. The mans completely detached. Nothing, none of what anyone experiences in the real world impacts him in the least. The man wouldnt be able to empathize with the sufferings of predatory college lending if he tried. his stratospheric wealth makes him practically undef…

He's a Taiwanese immigrant who graduated early and built his own company. I think he contributed some hard work himself.

That's somewhat irrelevant IMO.

There are hundreds of thousands of hard workers (probably millions) that are smarter than him that will never become billionaires. The difference is: he got lucky.

This is the nature of survivorship bias.

Re: Nvidia founder tells Stanford students their high expectations is a hindrance

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Post by m3kw9 » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 5:16 PM UTC

nimbius wrote: post #15

Huangs net worth is $80 billion. Hes literally one of the richest people in the world and arguably the least qualified to address the public in any form. The mans completely detached. Nothing, none of what anyone experiences in the real world impacts him in the least. The man wouldnt be able to empathize with the sufferings of predatory college lending if he tried. his stratospheric wealth makes him practically undef…

Rich hater be hating here. He came from poor to the top and wasn’t passed a silver spoon, so he has enough qualifications to lecture.

Re: Nvidia founder tells Stanford students their high expectations is a hindrance

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Post by wslh » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 5:17 PM UTC

cowboyscott wrote: post #11

This reminds me of the speech Bill Murray’s character gives at the start of Rushmore [0]: > You guys have it real easy. I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the ri…

Rushmore, I think one of the greatest movies ever (and i don't like other Anderson's movies [1]).

Going back to the topic I think Jensen is right 99.9999 % of the time. An exception could be Bill Gates and I don't think that is because him was born in a priviledged family but because he has an unique drive [2].

[1] https://www.imdb.com/user/ur0601133/ratings

[2] https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/41611.Hard_Drive

Re: Nvidia founder tells Stanford students their high expectations is a hindrance

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Post by m3kw9 » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 5:17 PM UTC

Draiken wrote: post #21

Ninjinka wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He's a Taiwanese immigrant who graduated early and built his own company. I think he contributed some hard work himself.

That's somewhat irrelevant IMO. There are hundreds of thousands of hard workers (probably millions) that are smarter than him that will never become billionaires. The difference is: he got lucky. This is the nature of survivorship bias.

So being unlucky makes one more qualified?

Re: Nvidia founder tells Stanford students their high expectations is a hindrance

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Post by ryandrake » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 5:18 PM UTC

cowboyscott wrote: post #11

This reminds me of the speech Bill Murray’s character gives at the start of Rushmore [0]: > You guys have it real easy. I never had it like this where I grew up. But I send my kids here because the fact is you go to one of the best schools in the country: Rushmore. Now, for some of you it doesn't matter. You were born rich and you're going to stay rich. But here's my advice to the rest of you: Take dead aim on the ri…

This guy: best chapel speaker I have ever seen.

In all seriousness, I took that speech on as my own personal motto for the rest of my life. Take dead aim at those rich kids, indeed!

Re: Nvidia founder tells Stanford students their high expectations is a hindrance

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Post by COGlory » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 5:18 PM UTC

m3kw9 wrote: post #22

nimbius wrote: post #15

Huangs net worth is $80 billion. Hes literally one of the richest people in the world and arguably the least qualified to address the public in any form. The mans completely detached. Nothing, none of what anyone experiences in the real world impacts him in the least. The man wouldnt be able to empathize with the sufferings of predatory college lending if he tried. his stratospheric wealth makes him practically undef…

Rich hater be hating here. He came from poor to the top and wasn’t passed a silver spoon, so he has enough qualifications to lecture.

It's not rich hating, it's that there's a billion poor people who weren't passed a silver spoon, worked hard, but ultimately failed in the one key element: luck. Rich people never understand that most of their success came from luck. In general, it makes them very unqualified to tell other people how to get rich.

And no I'm not saying rich people are too dumb to understand it, I'm saying that they're trying to rationalize survivorship bias, which pretty much everyone on planet earth does, knowingly, or unknowingly.

I'd highly recommend Fooled by Randomness for more on the topic:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fooled_by_Randomness

Re: Nvidia founder tells Stanford students their high expectations is a hindrance

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Post by dont_dox_me_bro » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 5:18 PM UTC

StefanBatory wrote: post #12

It's painful article but it's true. We have to remember that none of us deserves anything not that we have any right for anything; nothing is given and we have to work hard for that.

Do you think he would feel the same if the government split apart Nvidia and forced them to either sell the software (CUDA) or hardware as separate companies? After all, it's not like he has the right to run his company at the detriment of society. Opening up CUDA would be a massive net gain to humanity, or at least allowing more open source software to run on Nvidia hardware.

This is just an extremely tone deaf article from a billionaire.

This is a really terrible message to put out, especially where once upon a time America truly tried to make a "great society" through new deal programs and civil rights advancement; but nowadays the political climate is trash, largely thanks to the elite class rat fucking it into submission.

Re: Nvidia founder tells Stanford students their high expectations is a hindrance

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Post by jjtheblunt » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 5:19 PM UTC

nimbius wrote: post #15

Huangs net worth is $80 billion. Hes literally one of the richest people in the world and arguably the least qualified to address the public in any form. The mans completely detached. Nothing, none of what anyone experiences in the real world impacts him in the least. The man wouldnt be able to empathize with the sufferings of predatory college lending if he tried. his stratospheric wealth makes him practically undef…

Please support your assertions with linkable citations to data.

Re: Nvidia founder tells Stanford students their high expectations is a hindrance

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Post by dont_dox_me_bro » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 5:19 PM UTC

vlan0 wrote: post #7

>“One of my great advantages is that I have very low expectations.” This is important. We are limitless potential. To embody that, is to understand that life is uncertain. It's great to set goals. But don't take them too seriously. Or you will get lost in the concept.

I really wonder what he means by low expectations as a billionaire? I'm guessing it's drastically different than the 70 year olds I know working retail jobs so they don't die from poverty.

Re: Nvidia founder tells Stanford students their high expectations is a hindrance

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Post by jjtheblunt » Wed, Mar 13, 2024, 5:19 PM UTC

COGlory wrote: post #26

m3kw9 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rich hater be hating here. He came from poor to the top and wasn’t passed a silver spoon, so he has enough qualifications to lecture.

It's not rich hating, it's that there's a billion poor people who weren't passed a silver spoon, worked hard, but ultimately failed in the one key element: luck. Rich people never understand that most of their success came from luck. In general, it makes them very unqualified to tell other people how to get rich. And no I'm not saying rich people are too dumb to understand it, I'm saying that they're trying to ration…

The point is he's NOT saying how to get rich...that high expectations aren't a dependable strategy. I took it as he's acknowledging luck happens.