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Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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post #8

I don't think I've ever searched for something on the app store and not got a scam as the first result just tried it - my bank? I get crypto.com - train company app? knockoff app that charges extra fees - my broker? CFD gambling app - official government app for paying my tax? intuit product I dare to think how many people this lures in scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products not for t…

Especially given they use enhanced security as an excuse so often

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

#22
post #3

I thought the Apple platform had the best consumer experience and that's why folk love it -- it "just works" -- cause they keep the riff-raff out of their gated community. Perhaps they let this one slip through because their team was too busy dragging out the review process for our cannabis compliance application, they can only afford so many reviewers after all. We wouldn't want children accidentally getting their h…

It did - before cheapo enshittification started creeping in. I believe some time ago I saw some research on the quality of App Store app review process … zero protection.

But, even at this stage, Apple is still “the best”, because of the slower pace of the corruption and in comparison to the toxic dumpster fire of the alternatives.

Android and Windows are spyware/malware masquerading as OSs.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

#23
post #14

Promoted results in Google are loaded with scams. According to one recent report, 75% of brands are affected ( https://searchengineland.com/google-search-ads-brands-fraud-... ): The researchers who conducted the report found that retail giants such as Amazon, American Airlines, Lego, Pizza Hut, and Samsung were all victims of identity fraud within Google Search Ads. Here's a Google SERP for "Facebook" which shows Fac…

That’s insane, and news worthy. Imagine non-techies just trying to go about their day and getting that.

But hold on a sec. Is this verified by others? The guy in the video cuts to a screenshot, which doesn’t show the resulting url or how he got there, so it’s hard to tell what happened.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

#24
When I perform your search, I get legitimate results at the top, and I don't see the specific app from the Reddit thread. But about at about rank #7, I see an app that uses a distorted form of the same logo, a different unfamiliar publisher, a slightly altered title and a similar smattering of only a few reviews.

It sounds like somebody is burning developer accounts to keep reposting the scam app. Not unlike people being banned from a website and then resubscribing with a different email or through a VPN or whatever. It slipping through into your results isn't so much plain neglect as it is an arms race that Apple is on the losing side of this time.

Robust algorithmic ranking and moderation at scale is a myth, though, and you can find this happen pretty much everywhere. This one will probanly get squashed with some near-term update to their algorithm, and then get compromised again sometime later since crypto is so ripe for scamming.

You can't escape personal due diligence and "it was top ranked!" has never been that.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

#25

No repro. Same search string gives me the Bitcoin.com and the Coinbase app at the top. Scrolled through several dozen wallet apps and the one in the Reddit link never surfaced.

Here is a screen recording including this hacker news post + your comment & and a switch to the app store with the search phrase. The first result is the scam app. I scrolled down so you can see where serious apps are in the list of results. https://streamable.com/q2mulu

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

#26
post #3

I thought the Apple platform had the best consumer experience and that's why folk love it -- it "just works" -- cause they keep the riff-raff out of their gated community. Perhaps they let this one slip through because their team was too busy dragging out the review process for our cannabis compliance application, they can only afford so many reviewers after all. We wouldn't want children accidentally getting their h…

Apples app store is way worse than the google play store. i was shocked at how bad the app store is with shitty ads and promoted content over organic search results

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

#27
post #3

I thought the Apple platform had the best consumer experience and that's why folk love it -- it "just works" -- cause they keep the riff-raff out of their gated community. Perhaps they let this one slip through because their team was too busy dragging out the review process for our cannabis compliance application, they can only afford so many reviewers after all. We wouldn't want children accidentally getting their h…

It did - before cheapo enshittification started creeping in. I believe some time ago I saw some research on the quality of App Store app review process … zero protection. But, even at this stage, Apple is still “the best”, because of the slower pace of the corruption and in comparison to the toxic dumpster fire of the alternatives. Android and Windows are spyware/malware masquerading as OSs.

This is incorrect unless you're shifting topics to whether we trust MS, Apple, or Google's data collection more.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

#28
post #23
post #14

Promoted results in Google are loaded with scams. According to one recent report, 75% of brands are affected ( https://searchengineland.com/google-search-ads-brands-fraud-... ): The researchers who conducted the report found that retail giants such as Amazon, American Airlines, Lego, Pizza Hut, and Samsung were all victims of identity fraud within Google Search Ads. Here's a Google SERP for "Facebook" which shows Fac…

That’s insane, and news worthy. Imagine non-techies just trying to go about their day and getting that. But hold on a sec. Is this verified by others? The guy in the video cuts to a screenshot, which doesn’t show the resulting url or how he got there, so it’s hard to tell what happened.

Two versions of the video. This one shows the click: https://youtube.com/shorts/dXZQMkPJkXg?si=hsL8fUirHZj3DMG5

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

#29
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just took a screenshot of the app store about an hour ago: https://pasteboard.co/bZ7qQvAzYggy.png

Yeah, at the top because you already have it downloaded

Fair enough. I removed it and recorded the screen again: https://streamable.com/y5nhy7

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

#30
post #4

It’s crazy that you can leave reviews from within the App Store, nor can you report it to Apple from within the App Store.

You're right, and I've done both. My review doesn't appear in the list of reviews. What's crazy is that a scam app is the #1 organic search result for 'bitcoin wallet', above blockchain.com and coinbase.

(1) How much more valuable do you think it is to the scam app developer to appear at the top of the search results than for a legitimate wallet developer?

(2) Do you think a legitimate wallet app will engage in the same black-hat SEO tactics a scam app developer will?

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