With Unusual Speed, Hong Kong Pushes Strict New Security Law • Hacker News Board

Post by heroprotagonist » Mon, Mar 11, 2024, 4:45 PM UTC

LastNevadan wrote: post #17

heroprotagonist wrote: post #12

"Unusual Speed"? This is just another step. The world sat back and watched, years ago, as China replaced Hong Kong leadership with the express purpose of accelerating Hong Kong's absorption into China. Newspapers with opposition views have been shut down for years now. I was in Hong Kong in the week leading up to the protests set off by the extradition bill. Cabbies were telling tales of people being disappeared, the…

If you were, say, the President of the United States, during critical points in the transition, what would you have done differently? China held the cards. No amount of jawboning by western democracies would have stopped China. Taking economic steps (like banning China from SWIFT or imposing sanctions like we are doing with Russia now) would have been ineffective and costly. Military action would have been absurd. Th…

Economic redress is perfectly reasonable when there's an international agreement like the Sino-British Joint Declaration in place, deposited with the UN, which is clearly being violated. That treaty states that basic policies regarding Hong Kong "will remain unchanged for 50 years", including the promise that the city would retain a high degree of autonomy.

But that's to be acted upon in cooperation at the international level. Surely the US had enough sway at the time to result in more action than the sternly written letters and an executive order to 'retaliate' by giving China exactly what it wanted -- US officially acceding to the fact that HK has lost its autonomy 30 years earlier than agreed and scheduled.

At home, I'd have started by opening up immigration from Hong Kong quite a bit more than we did. We eventually broadened eligibility for people from Hong Kong, but only made the visas valid until February 2023, which was a year and a few months from when we got around to it under the next president.

And that wasn't enough. People leaving under such a visa would only place targets on their back for their eventual return. We should have made much such visas longer with a path towards permanent citizenship attached.

Beyond that we should put a lot more effort into fighting transnational repression. Not just limited to things like the bounty placed on a US resident by the new HK leadership, but across the board. If you want a list of examples, China features quite heavily on the list of example incidents from the FBI:

https://www.fbi.gov/investigate/counterintelligence/transnat...