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New York State Deploys National Guard to NYC Subways to Fight Crime (Bloomberg)

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Re: New York State Deploys National Guard to NYC Subways to Fight Crime (Bloomberg)

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> The National Guard members will conduct random bag checks on passengers I'm not asking this out of disbelief, but just out of genuine curiosity: What is the legal foundation that allows them to randomly search people who are simply going about their day? What happens whenever people say "no, you can't search my bag." ?

This is a guess, but authorities are allowed to search you on airplane. This might be a mass transit exception.

Where in the Constitution is this exemption?

Re: New York State Deploys National Guard to NYC Subways to Fight Crime (Bloomberg)

#22

It's interesting to see how the pushback to this is a lot more muted than when Bloomberg implemented stop & frisk for largely the same reasons.

You can't refuse stop and frisk, here you can say no and just not board

Re: New York State Deploys National Guard to NYC Subways to Fight Crime (Bloomberg)

#23

It’d be great if we were mature enough as a society to have a nice chat about why there is so much suffering and crime in American cities but alas.

Is there really that much? NYC murder rates are down 80% from their peak in 1990. We're roughly at 1950s rates.

Maybe true but NYC didn’t need this level of policing in the subways in the 1950s.

We could ask why this happens in NYC and other US cities but not in Tokyo, Singapore, Bangkok, or Paris. In years of using mass transit in Asia I have not once witnessed the kind of conflict I’ve seen in NYC and SF every day.

Re: New York State Deploys National Guard to NYC Subways to Fight Crime (Bloomberg)

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This only applies to the gov't

If you do some reading, I believe you will find that the National Guard is part of the government.

They might as well quarter the Soldiers in people’s houses since we’re ignoring so much of the rest of the Bill of Rights at this point.

Re: New York State Deploys National Guard to NYC Subways to Fight Crime (Bloomberg)

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a guess, but authorities are allowed to search you on airplane. This might be a mass transit exception.

Where in the Constitution is this exemption?

I don’t think it exists in the plain text of the Constitution.
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