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Jetbrains unbundles AI Assistant and is now available as a separate plugin

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Re: Jetbrains unbundles AI Assistant and is now available as a separate plugin

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Post by jasomill »

flumpcakes wrote: post #19
thegrim000 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man I hate their licensing system. Now I have to buy an updated license so my fallback version will be at least this new version. So I have to pay for another license to get this fix.

That's exactly how the licensing works. You get a perpetual license for the version you bought at that point in time as a fall back if you don't renew a subscription which frankly is much more than most offer. If you're wanting a perpetual license that includes all future updates across all versions then I am afraid that doesn't exist pretty much anywhere. Fruity Loops is the only software I know that is still develo…

Logic Pro, Final Cut Pro, and DaVinci Resolve Studio, but, unlike JetBrains, neither Apple nor Blackmagic rely on software sales for most of their revenue.

Also, I can think of a few utility programs like Alfred[1] and BetterTouchTool[2] that offer lifetime upgrades at additional cost.

Finally, consumer Windows appears to have more or less adopted this model, subsidized by a steady stream of volume and OEM license sales.

[1] https://www.alfredapp.com/shop/

[2] https://folivora.ai/buy

Re: Jetbrains unbundles AI Assistant and is now available as a separate plugin

#23

Post by throwaway5959 »

freilanzer wrote: post #22
throwaway5959 wrote: post #5

I almost cancelled my JetBrains subscription when I saw that shit. Very bad move on their part.

Why?

They were by default sending code back to their servers so they could make AI suggestions. I didn’t consent to that.

Re: Jetbrains unbundles AI Assistant and is now available as a separate plugin

#24

Post by gorjusborg »

donmcronald wrote: post #7

I read the ToS when this issue surfaced last month. I think JetBrains tried to do a reasonable job of restricting the use of code by the AI companies. I think the thing they missed is that many of us don’t trust those companies and don’t think AI is going to bring the gains being promised. I personally think we’ll see larger volumes of mediocre junk and fewer amazing, innovative things built by extremely talented exp…

I am not against AI, per se, but I am against giving unfettered access to my data implicitly for who knows the purpose.

In many cases it isn't even my data to grant access to.

Re: Jetbrains unbundles AI Assistant and is now available as a separate plugin

#25

Post by piafraus »

flumpcakes wrote: post #19
thegrim000 wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man I hate their licensing system. Now I have to buy an updated license so my fallback version will be at least this new version. So I have to pay for another license to get this fix.

That's exactly how the licensing works. You get a perpetual license for the version you bought at that point in time as a fall back if you don't renew a subscription which frankly is much more than most offer. If you're wanting a perpetual license that includes all future updates across all versions then I am afraid that doesn't exist pretty much anywhere. Fruity Loops is the only software I know that is still develo…

To be honest it does feel weird that the subscription allows you to upgrade to latest yet not use it after it ends.

I personally would think that something like "You purchase a year of versions, so final one you would be able to upgrade to - would be your perpetual subscription"

Re: Jetbrains unbundles AI Assistant and is now available as a separate plugin

#26

Post by flumpcakes »

piafraus wrote: post #25
flumpcakes wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly how the licensing works. You get a perpetual license for the version you bought at that point in time as a fall back if you don't renew a subscription which frankly is much more than most offer. If you're wanting a perpetual license that includes all future updates across all versions then I am afraid that doesn't exist pretty much anywhere. Fruity Loops is the only software I know that is still develo…

To be honest it does feel weird that the subscription allows you to upgrade to latest yet not use it after it ends. I personally would think that something like "You purchase a year of versions, so final one you would be able to upgrade to - would be your perpetual subscription"

I completely agree. You shouldn't have to down grade..

Re: Jetbrains unbundles AI Assistant and is now available as a separate plugin

#27

Post by NoahKAndrews »

throwaway5959 wrote: post #23
freilanzer wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why?

They were by default sending code back to their servers so they could make AI suggestions. I didn’t consent to that.

Source? I really don't think that's true.

Re: Jetbrains unbundles AI Assistant and is now available as a separate plugin

#28

Post by [deleted] »

piafraus wrote: post #25
flumpcakes wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly how the licensing works. You get a perpetual license for the version you bought at that point in time as a fall back if you don't renew a subscription which frankly is much more than most offer. If you're wanting a perpetual license that includes all future updates across all versions then I am afraid that doesn't exist pretty much anywhere. Fruity Loops is the only software I know that is still develo…

To be honest it does feel weird that the subscription allows you to upgrade to latest yet not use it after it ends. I personally would think that something like "You purchase a year of versions, so final one you would be able to upgrade to - would be your perpetual subscription"

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Re: Jetbrains unbundles AI Assistant and is now available as a separate plugin

#30

Post by sidewndr46 »

NoahKAndrews wrote: post #27
throwaway5959 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They were by default sending code back to their servers so they could make AI suggestions. I didn’t consent to that.

Source? I really don't think that's true.

According to JetBrains

> Neither we nor our service providers use your data or code for training any generative models.

This is some very weasel-wording stuff written by a lawyer. It probably means their parent company can use the code for training, they just can't do it directly.

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