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MyHeritage debuts OldNews.com, offering access to myriad historical newspapers

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Re: MyHeritage debuts OldNews.com, offering access to myriad historical newspapers

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It's such a shame that recent historical newspapers are closed source in this way. We could learn so much from quantitative analysis of culture if there were downloadable data or at least an API.

You can easily find historical newspapers on archive.org. For example:

https://archive.org/details/sim_los-angeles-times_the-los-an...

Re: MyHeritage debuts OldNews.com, offering access to myriad historical newspapers

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It would be awesome if all these newspaper archives were freely available via Archive.org or a similar service. Seems strange to need a subscription to view old newspapers. Perhaps part of the fees pay for hosting costs and the work that goes into compiling so many sources and slapping a easily navigable UI on top of it, etc.

Re: MyHeritage debuts OldNews.com, offering access to myriad historical newspapers

#23

It would be awesome if all these newspaper archives were freely available via Archive.org or a similar service. Seems strange to need a subscription to view old newspapers. Perhaps part of the fees pay for hosting costs and the work that goes into compiling so many sources and slapping a easily navigable UI on top of it, etc.

Finding papers and digitizing them takes a a lot of work. Is nice that sone not for profits like archive.org do that work for no cost but expecting others to do it for you for free is what seems strange to me.

Re: MyHeritage debuts OldNews.com, offering access to myriad historical newspapers

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting that the newest available is from 1963.

Chronicling America is great, but as you’ve noticed it’s limited to issues that are in the public domain. It’s not just LC, the National Digital Newspaper Program[1] has been funding hundreds of libraries across all 50 USA states to make it possible since the mid-00s. Australia’s national library offers Trove[2], which has a huge collection of Australian public domain newspapers. Most of their repository is likely fu…

Trove is fantastic. It came in handy very recently for the same project I used the Library of Congress for[1]. The Museums of History New South Wales has a great online archive as well[2].

[1]: https://ajxs.me/blog/The_Identity_of_The_Sanctimonious_Kid.h...

[2]: https://mhnsw.au/collections/state-archives-collection/

Re: MyHeritage debuts OldNews.com, offering access to myriad historical newspapers

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post #7

It's such a shame that recent historical newspapers are closed source in this way. We could learn so much from quantitative analysis of culture if there were downloadable data or at least an API.

Well you can, go to your local library and look at microfiche. It's how we used to do it. Primary research. If you're lucky they may have OCR or a tagging system. If not, reels of microfiche

Microfiche is a small flat sheet, microfilm is on reels. "Fiche" being French for card.

The More You Know...

Re: MyHeritage debuts OldNews.com, offering access to myriad historical newspapers

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well you can, go to your local library and look at microfiche. It's how we used to do it. Primary research. If you're lucky they may have OCR or a tagging system. If not, reels of microfiche

Microfiche is a small flat sheet, microfilm is on reels. "Fiche" being French for card. The More You Know...

Huh! Til

Re: MyHeritage debuts OldNews.com, offering access to myriad historical newspapers

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My impression on both is that they are US/European centric. Not very true to their "scouring the world for newspapers" line. So, they only show events that impact or are reported on in those areas. I know that newspapers.com has a few (2 or 3) asian newspapers but that is all.

Re: MyHeritage debuts OldNews.com, offering access to myriad historical newspapers

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They seem to be competing with https://www.newspapers.com/ , which has been providing access to historical newspapers for about 10 years now. I did a few searches on OldNews.com to compare with Newspapers.com, and it seems that OldNews has a smaller database, with far fewer newspapers. It didn't contain results from a sampling of local newspapers that I tried, nor from major newspapers like the NY Times, Wall Street…

> OldNews is also slightly more expensive than the basic Newspapers.com subscription.

newpapers.com is $150/yr or $20/mo for unlocked content - and $90/yr or $8/mo for partially unlocked content.

Or you can pay $360/yr for Ancestry and get newspapers.com for $150/yr for unlocked - $90/yr for partially unlocked.

Or you can pay $600/yr for Ancestry and get newspapers.com at no extra charge.

Re: MyHeritage debuts OldNews.com, offering access to myriad historical newspapers

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Newspapers.com is an Ancestry.com property. I'm not sure who's the larger company in terms of user base, do you know their respective sizes?

They are both around 4 milion paying users (each)

I have accounts on both. In 2018, I would visit Ancestry 80% and MyH 20%. MyH was good for post-1940 records.

Now it's ~99% A & 1% MyH. I try MyH when I can't find something on Ancestry - generally w/o luck. Most of my MyH hits are profiles from FamilySearch (probably ones that I made).

Re: MyHeritage debuts OldNews.com, offering access to myriad historical newspapers

#30
post #5

The #1 thing anybody should be asking for here is a list of newspapers they archive. I cannot see it. The obvious competitor to these people is https://www.newspapers.com and they at least have a crude one: https://www.newspapers.com/papers . Note that the Seattle Times (and newspapers from the NW in general) are missing. Does oldnews do better here?

> Note that the Seattle Times (and newspapers from the NW in general) are missing. Does oldnews do better here?

A LOC search for WA state showed some content on but not ST. https://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/newspapers/?state=Washing...

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