I mean I think the google woke issue is another thing but not so much to the culture war but more that we need to be careful with the instructions we give AI and why we give them. Should we be preoccupied with whether or not people will be offended by the output of AI? Surely if we train the AI “the right way” we won’t need to add blanket rules.
Yishan Wong: "Google's Gemini issue is not about woke/DEI"
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#22Re: Yishan Wong: "Google's Gemini issue is not about woke/DEI"
#23bard is serving us the future we deserve, not the future we wanted.
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#24In a nutshell for those without a X account: the problem here isn't that Google's AI gave "woke" results. The big problem here is that even one of the biggest AI specialists in the world, Google, wasn't able to fully predict or control the output of its AI. If we ever create a truly powerful, superintelligent AI under the assumption that we'll be able to control it, this incident shows that even a minor mistake from…
After all prompt shenanigans are a well known issue.
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#25Surely there was internal dogfooding for this feature, I do not believed they would add a new system prompt and then released it to the public with little testing and then get surprised that it was doing this like the author suggests happened.
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#26My personal opinion is that what he says is non-sense divagation. The problem of woke instructions like this is that it goes against the physical reality of the dataset. And it is the physical reality that does that we have what we have even if we don't like it. Such a case better show us the issue with the woke mindset that tries to bend the reality. You might want to ask the AI to only generate positive opinion, me…
> it will be VERY plausible for an AI to simply conclude that it should proceed with the most expedient way to delete ~95% of humans.
The elimination of ~95% of humans is a realistic way of "solving" climate change, without bending reality. It just so happens that this is not a morally acceptable solution to most of us. In other words, it is not an issue of people bending reality, it is an issue of the reality being far more complicated than humans programmers can fathom, and consequently, that humans programming an AI to address real issues will be inherently limited by their own imagination of what the solutions to those issue most might be.
In other words, woke programmers may be bending reality due to their biases and limitations, leading to unacceptable outcomes from their AI, but don't be so arrogant as to think that your own biases and limitations aren't going to yield equally unacceptable output.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
There used to be alternative websites that would turn a tweet thread into a single webpage (note that this is not what nitter did), but I don't know if they stopped working too?
As parent says, nitter is dead. Discussion at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39382590
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#28They drove their heads up their ass on purpose. None of the results are a surprise to Google.
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#29https://vgel.me/posts/representation-engineering/
Just as a thought experiment, project that to the hypothetical existential risk scenario. Maybe there is a slider for aggression (hopefully not) or literalness of interpretation of instructions.