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Re: Rotten Apple

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Post by NekkoDroid »

zer00eyz wrote: post #16
everydaypanos wrote: post #8

Why Safari can’t just launch from a Home Screen bookmark even if the user has chosen another “default browser”? PWAs are already a separate “island” of storage and share nothing with Safari App… Microsoft does it all the time with Edge on Windows.

>> Microsoft does it all the time with Edge on Windows. Edge on windows, the same edge on windows that got caught slurping up chrome tabs recently? Browsers are now the same size code base wise, as operating systems. They are in fact tiny OS's with permissions models and execution environments. I think the author makes the point that safari made a lot of progress, they paid for a lot of work, that they are throwing a…

Aren't apps already sandboxed from eachother on both major Phone OS', unlike on Windows? So on that end something like Edges snooping around other browsers isn't even possible.

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Post by bjornsing »

Angostura wrote: post #2

A lot of this article appears to be based on the belief that the security architecture of iOS and MacOS are identical. This seems ... an unlikely assumption

I think a more problematic assumption is that iOS and MacOS users are equally aware and knowledgeable about potential security threats. It’s true that the sky hasn’t fallen because MacOS users are exposed to these risks. But they are not new risks on MacOS. They will be on iOS.

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Post by sneak »

Competition is good. This isn’t a new thing for Apple, however - even when Jobs was alive, he personally conspired with Google, Adobe, Intel, Intuit, Pixar, Lucasfilm and eBay to price-fix wages lower than a normal competitive market would allow.

When the companies reached a settlement over it, the judge threw it out because it was so hilariously low compared to the three billion dollars that these companies stole from their employees.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Tech_Employee_Antitrust...

This isn’t some new development. Apple has long been without a moral compass, even when Jobs was at the helm. It continues today.

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Post by revscat »

algesten wrote: post #19

Call me old fashioned, but I prefer it when web pages open in a web browser and don't pretend to be native apps.

Sometimes, sure. Sometimes not, though. I have a PWA for studying kanji that very much benefits from the increased real estate and more focused feel.

I like having that choice.

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Post by pretext-1 »

thimp wrote: post #11

Ah yes, the poor end users suffering and the security being bullshit. I really can't wait to clean the first malicious browser out of a relative's iPhone and try and unsubscribe from Tim Sweeny's app store with his own 30% margin to spend on blackjack and hookers. The new status quo will be worse than the old one.

Somehow this is not a problem on Android even though they have sideloading and alternative app stores even beyond what Apple is going to allow. (Apple still requires apps to go though a review process, even if distributed outside of the App Store, and will enforce this using digital signatures.)

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Post by velcrovan »

rickdeckard wrote: post #7

Good post, but a bit turbulent to read: "If you’ve ever built a web app, then your users will suffer. Remember, it’s a world wide web, including the European Union." "Create a PDF with the following information:" (me, reading that paragraph: '...what? why?') -- [Edit]: I concluded from the bullet-list on why that is requested, but it would help to introduce that intention before instructing me to do something

It seems obvious that they’re collecting submissions to include in an official complaint. PDF isn’t unreasonable for that use.

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Post by wouldbecouldbe »

What is really fun about working with Apple is their Appstore connect platform is buggy & slow as hell.

Few times I couldn't submit an app because of it.

Every time I submit a bug, there first reaction is try it on safari; most of time it was server issues so it didn't resolve it. But sometimes it actually did where I didnt expect it.

Re: Rotten Apple

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Post by rickdeckard »

5350-uiop-1130 wrote: post #3

fighting to sustain a monopoly it indicates to me a lack of ideas about the future reacting rather than preparing

I think their idea of the future is very much centered around selling the attention and purchasing power of their customers.

That's not meant to be rude "Anti-Apple", that's what their business strategy is obviously based on, including implementing lots of features to prevent their users from voluntarily providing attention or sharing valuable information for free to anyone without Apple's involvement.

If that's your strategy, someone forcing you to allow your customers to roam free is quite a big threat. Something you might be willing to spend one of your trillion dollars to fight against.

So I believe we haven't seen the peak of this yet...

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