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Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by chrnola »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #14
chrnola wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider the setup process for the Apple TV. The TV shows a unique one-time-use QR code-like pattern that you can scan with the camera of an iOS device. Surely something like this would be sufficient for pairing a Vision Pro with a Mac. Also the security implications of encouraging people to add their personal Apple ID to devices they don’t own are, IMO, worse.

I'm being more cynical and assuming it's probably to do with AirPlay screen-mirroring encryption and how tying everything to the same Apple ID account placates Hollywood's technophobic licensing execs.

This is an incredible point that I had not considered.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by WWLink »

chrnola wrote: post #13
LeoPanthera wrote: post #8

This is a very very long rant against a decision that seems entirely sensible to me. I specifically would not want any corporate-issued hardware happily chatting away with my personally-owned hardware, and I would encourage others to similarly keep their home and work life separate. If having an iPad (or a Vision Pro) would be useful for work, then their employer should issue one.

Employers could be free to restrict use of such devices via MDM policy if they wanted. Also, how many of us have purchased keyboards, mice, displays, headphones, etc with our own money that we happily use with employer owned computers because it’s safe to do so?

Some employers are just straight up control freaks.

Sometimes it's misguided thoughts about security and third party keyboards from "unapproved vendors" (which is not entirely invalid to be concerned about, but unlikely to be an attack vector)......

But other times, they really do want you to use exactly what they provide you and nothing else. Things like "looking uniform and professional" or not wanting employees bringing their personal belongings to the workplace or whatever nonsense they come up with.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by threeseed »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #14
chrnola wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Consider the setup process for the Apple TV. The TV shows a unique one-time-use QR code-like pattern that you can scan with the camera of an iOS device. Surely something like this would be sufficient for pairing a Vision Pro with a Mac. Also the security implications of encouraging people to add their personal Apple ID to devices they don’t own are, IMO, worse.

I'm being more cynical and assuming it's probably to do with AirPlay screen-mirroring encryption and how tying everything to the same Apple ID account placates Hollywood's technophobic licensing execs.

Except that you can have a different AppleID for your system versus content.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by SoftTalker »

w-ll wrote: post #9
ricardobeat wrote: post #2

This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.

The real crime is Macbooks still ship with a 1080p camera when their ungodly huge phones ship with 48MP

What does anyone use the Macbook camera for except video calls or meetings. 1080p is more than enough for that.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by WWLink »

ricardobeat wrote: post #2

This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.

Huh? That must've been a recent change. I used to log into apple music via itunes with my personal account while MacOS itself was using my work account.. yep, two separate apple IDs.

That sucks.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by SoftTalker »

jtc331 wrote: post #17
Dalewyn wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never ever ever mix personal and professional anything, for that way lies hell and tragedy.

The truth is, as usual, probably somewhere in the middle.

Most of the time it's fine. But it can become a very major problem, and the risk is easily avoided. If you need some equipment for work, work should pay for it. If you can BYOD and want to do that, don't use it for anything else.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by threeseed »

Retr0id wrote: post #20
Retr0id wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but if someone wants to use a Vision Pro for both work and non-work, having two of them is a bit steep.

To elaborate, personally I draw the line at peripherals. I do try to use different devices for work and not-work, but I use the same monitor+keyboard+mouse+headphones (and desk, and chair...) for both. The Vision Pro is a weird middle ground of device and peripheral. When it's operating as a virtual display it's more of a peripheral, and it'd be nice if it acted more like one.

There are plenty of VNC clients for Vision Pro.

Seems easier to just use those if all you need is a virtual display.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by piskov »

w-ll wrote: post #9
ricardobeat wrote: post #2

This annoyance also extends to other features like using an iPhone as webcam, unlocking with Apple Watch, using Apple Music (you can’t login to a different account, only the system one)… MDM is so common in every tech company - I bet Apple’s own employee issued macs are managed, it is inexplicable how this is still a problem.

The real crime is Macbooks still ship with a 1080p camera when their ungodly huge phones ship with 48MP

Do you want your laptop screen be as thick as an iPhone?

It’s just basic physics: you cannot have 1-inch sensor with a lens right on top of it in 3-5mm of total thickness. Just the same way your eye is not flat but 2cm long.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by whatever1 »

The fact that you cannot connect this to an HDMI device will be the death for this.

Now they are hostages of Netflix, YouTube or any content owner. Had they have HDMI in, we would be able to just use a Roku stick to project 4k hdr Netflix content, or straight up project an 8k resolution Mac desktop.

Re: Mac Virtual Display on Vision Pro Requires Same Apple ID

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Post by w-ll »

SoftTalker wrote: post #24
w-ll wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real crime is Macbooks still ship with a 1080p camera when their ungodly huge phones ship with 48MP

What does anyone use the Macbook camera for except video calls or meetings. 1080p is more than enough for that.

Face tracking. Even for my self, sounds crazy but a handful of my terminal aliases attempt to capture my mood by scanning my face so I can make a fun chart of my emotion while commiting code.

The fact companies sell products to stick mounting gear on a Macbook to mount your iphone to capture better video will tell you theres a market.

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