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Re: The adult consequences of being bullied in childhood

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post #13

Before bullying was eliminated from schools, bullying was pervasive, and I know several friends who were bullied throughout their schooling. The emotional scars and struggles with self-esteem they faced lasted long after the bullying itself stopped.

> Before bullying was eliminated from schools

I have bad news.

Re: The adult consequences of being bullied in childhood

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post #9

There's the issue of correlation vs causation here. There is no controlled experiment where children are randomly assigned to control or test group and those in the test group are bullied (that would be unethical). It's plausible there are many root factors that contribute both to negative life outcomes, and also increase the chance of being bullied. E.g. being disabled, or autistic, or even just ugly. That would cau…

This is the obvious issue. It's reasonable to assume that kids whom are bullied have socially undesirable qualities vis-a-vis kids who are not bullied. Kids with socially undesirable qualities are obviously more likely to become adults with socially undesirable qualities. There's no reason to think those people wouldn't perform worse when they are literally selected for negative qualities.

LGBQT was considered socially unacceptable a decade ago, I would think someone like that who was in a tolerant society probably would have better outcomes than an intolerant one.

Re: The adult consequences of being bullied in childhood

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Yep, age 7 and 11 were peak bullying ages. Verbal and physical abuse, scapegoating. Ignored and blamed by administration. Parents from an era where “boys will be boys”. Now: Homeless and broke. Out of work for a long time. I let people shit all over me, even in adulthood. I was told that adulthood would be different. In fact, it was the same as childhood, but more insidious. I pray for death being unable to commit su…

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Re: The adult consequences of being bullied in childhood

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Demoralization campaign..?

Yes, for instance if a big tech company knows that a person is demoralized already (for example, out of work and isolated), and if a major life trauma event occurs for that person, create a satirical and insulting depiction of that trauma event for the person unannounced on their personalized feed. They will never know for sure whether it was intentional, which will add to the stress and demoralization effect. The bi…

I’ve been told to never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence. I’ve never found that to be convincing, because there are a lot of malicious people in the world. Then I realized the more salient point that malicious actors generally do no more harm than the incompetent folks.

Re: The adult consequences of being bullied in childhood

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Is there a study that compares the difference in bullying between countries?

I have a feeling that bullying was/is particularly common and more violent in the UK compared to the rest of the world.

I am from France, and I always found the portraiture of bullying in English culture quite foreign to me. Repeated beatings, total humiliation, stalking, all these horrific behaviors did seem fairly established in the UK, while they were exceptional in my personal experience (not that it didn’t exist, but their frequency was much lower, and their intensity much milder).

It seems to me like the culture of both boarding schools, and “keep calm and carry on” (for lack of a better word) were a particularly fertile ground for such bad behaviors to spread.

But maybe I am wrong, just an intuition here.

Re: The adult consequences of being bullied in childhood

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post #19

I was bullied as a child, and it is something I remember vividly to this day. As a result I was kept in at recess, found a computer, played a game on it, figured out how to make little modifications to it, and… a couple stints each at VPE and CTO haven’t been so bad. I’m lucky. That teacher was exceptional.

How do you view conflict now? Do you think your experience affected that view?

Re: The adult consequences of being bullied in childhood

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post #23

Yep, age 7 and 11 were peak bullying ages. Verbal and physical abuse, scapegoating. Ignored and blamed by administration. Parents from an era where “boys will be boys”. Now: Homeless and broke. Out of work for a long time. I let people shit all over me, even in adulthood. I was told that adulthood would be different. In fact, it was the same as childhood, but more insidious. I pray for death being unable to commit su…

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You’re way off base and I would prefer if you were to discontinue responding.

Re: The adult consequences of being bullied in childhood

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, for instance if a big tech company knows that a person is demoralized already (for example, out of work and isolated), and if a major life trauma event occurs for that person, create a satirical and insulting depiction of that trauma event for the person unannounced on their personalized feed. They will never know for sure whether it was intentional, which will add to the stress and demoralization effect. The bi…

I’ve been told to never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by incompetence. I’ve never found that to be convincing, because there are a lot of malicious people in the world. Then I realized the more salient point that malicious actors generally do no more harm than the incompetent folks.

Reasonable.

No transparency, though. Cannot be sure.

Re: The adult consequences of being bullied in childhood

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post #26

Is there a study that compares the difference in bullying between countries? I have a feeling that bullying was/is particularly common and more violent in the UK compared to the rest of the world. I am from France, and I always found the portraiture of bullying in English culture quite foreign to me. Repeated beatings, total humiliation, stalking, all these horrific behaviors did seem fairly established in the UK, wh…

Nope very common all over the world
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