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I was rejected because I told my interviewer I never make mistakes

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Re: I was rejected because I told my interviewer I never make mistakes

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This is pretty obviously either a troll, or slightly more likely the site making up fake letters to respond to them.

As someone who interviews people… definitely not a troll. There are SO MANY people like this and they’re so incredibly sure that they’re right that they absolutely DO write letters like this, because they’re SURE they’re going to be told they’re right.

I've interviewed hundreds of people, possibly closer to 1000, and can confirm: there are actually people like this.

I once asked a candidate how DNS worked. It's something that even junior candidates for this role should have known, but this candidate tried to insist that "DNS worked because of the DOM" (as in, the browser DOM). When asked to clarify, and given plenty of chances to save themselves, they continued to insist, claiming that "Javascript and React handled all that." That stopped their candidacy immediately - less because of the lack of technical skills, and more because of their unwillingness to even explore the possibility that they were wrong. You can teach someone how the DOM and DNS work, but not someone who's unwilling to admit when they're wrong.

Re: I was rejected because I told my interviewer I never make mistakes

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I've interviewed candidates as arrogant as this, and they never make it.

It does remind me of a candidate who did though, for the exact opposite sort of behavior. One of the people on my panel wasn't very creative, and asked the cliche "what's your greatest weakness?"

The candidate thought about it for a moment, then apologized, saying "I'm just trying to pick an interesting one to talk about, because I'm sure I have them." That got me listening, as it was perfectly honest. Eventually the candidate said something like "one thing keeps coming to mind, and it may not be a great answer, but I can't let it go - I think my greatest weakness, at least when thinking of this role, is how challenging it will likely be for me for the first month as I get to know the people and company and process."

That's how you answer that question should you ever get it. With honesty. If someone asks about your mistakes, think of a big one, one where you learned a lot. Humility sends out a strong signal about how well you'll work with others, which is easily 50% of what's important to thrive at most orgs.

Re: I was rejected because I told my interviewer I never make mistakes

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I had a similar but less dramatic experience interviewing someone once. I asked about a time where something went wrong on a project, and he sakd that had never happened to him. I tried asking the question a few different ways, giving him lots of opportunities to come up with something ("Did you ever have a teammate on a project in school who didn't contribute their fair share? Get sick before a deadline"?) and he in…

> I asked about a time where something went wrong on a project, and he [said] that had never happened to him.

I can see my past self responding similarly just due to being unaware of what interviews are usually like.

Nowadays I know that "no, they are not necessarily asking for a time when someone got fired for something, or for a time when the project was down for so long that people got mad; here they mean 'wrong' in a more lax way, like a time you had to rollback something even if nobody noticed, or a time a refactor went longer than expected (or didn't complete), or a time a query was being a little slower than expected, even if it didn't impact anyone".

My past self to my current self: "But surely that's normal? Those are small things, and it doesn't seem like anything went wrong in any of them."

My current self to my past self: "Still, that's the kind of thing they want to know. Now shut up and be thankful you at least get the chance to talk to someone instead of getting ghosted."

> I tried asking the question a few different ways, giving him lots of opportunities to come up with something

I thank you for at least trying to rephrase the question just in case the response was only due to not having had that many interviews.

That the candidate wasn't able to pick up on your intentions is on them. I hope they at least thought about the interview after they did it and try to see what they could have done better.

Re: I was rejected because I told my interviewer I never make mistakes

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> I told her maybe she made mistakes as a developer but since I actually went to school for it, I didn’t have that problem. LOL. I also remember the CS-33B - Bulletproof your career - how to never make mistakes 1-0-1 class from college /s This reeks for rage bait. Maybe askamanager's engagement numbers are going down and now they have to post content like this?

It could be rage bait. But there are absolutely people who are 10/10 on technical scale and 0/10 on "would want to work with" scale. I have met and dread them

Re: I was rejected because I told my interviewer I never make mistakes

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> I told her maybe she made mistakes as a developer but since I actually went to school for it, I didn’t have that problem. LOL. I also remember the CS-33B - Bulletproof your career - how to never make mistakes 1-0-1 class from college /s This reeks for rage bait. Maybe askamanager's engagement numbers are going down and now they have to post content like this?

It could be rage bait. But there are absolutely people who are 10/10 on technical scale and 0/10 on "would want to work with" scale. I have met and dread them

If you have ever had the unfortunate luck to work with them, they can frequently have great technical answers , but drag out issues as long as possible for no logical reason.

Re: I was rejected because I told my interviewer I never make mistakes

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I keep remembering interviews with candidates where the candidate was the exact opposite of being like the arrogant candidate from the article.

I don't recall the question that brought out this story, but the candidate was describing why the startup he'd cofounded failed. One of the reasons, he shared, was "because of the day I went to jail."

You hear that from a candidate and your next few minutes just got way more interesting.

Candidate said he and his family woke up to a SWAT team raiding his house and seizing all his electronics early one morning. He immediately assumed his cofounder had been doing something shady, and decided on the spot to end the venture. His instincts ended up being accurate. Instead of paying taxes to the IRS, his cofounder had been paying that money into his own pocket, according to the candidate.

That's not so much a mistake, but the candidate shared what was the mistake: he never got a lawyer. He just accepted the consequences as cofounder, presuming that "equal partner meant equal responsibility."

He got hired, and has been rock solid for the four years we've worked at the same place.

Re: I was rejected because I told my interviewer I never make mistakes

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I don't find it that strange for someone to claim they never make mistakes. However, I would press for details as to why they never make mistakes. They probably don't take many risks, or work on the same or repetitive stuff for a long time, or don't consider "forced errors" mistakes, like a client gives you a bad spec and you implement it and they get mad. You could consider that you made a mistake in not pressing on the bad spec, but you could also just consider it a "forced error"--you didn't "make a mistake" the same way a chainsaw doesn't make mistakes. They might also consider an unreasonable deadline a 'forced error' or some sort, where they don't consider themselves to have made any mistakes if they indicated insufficient time and cut corners under 'duress'. Someone might take issue with that and call that a mistake, but it actually seems to open up an interesting line of questioning as to why they don't believe they have made a mistake.
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