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Why would they want to encourage people to buy x86 machines from vendors other than them?
Not that they would encourage people to buy machines from anyone but them, but, for x86, at least they don't make any machine with those chips anymore.
Hackintosh: OpenCore EFI for HP Pavilion Aero 13 Laptop
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#22All the above?
Forgive me. I've been on Linux since the 90s and don't really engage much with the Apple ecosystem. I don't mean this as a dig. I'm really ignorant on this stuff.
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#23Help me on this. Do people really like say, macOS but not Apple hardware? Is this to lower cost? Just a hobby project? All the above? Forgive me. I've been on Linux since the 90s and don't really engage much with the Apple ecosystem. I don't mean this as a dig. I'm really ignorant on this stuff.
- it's expensive, especially if you want to load up on memory or disk space
- there is limited choice
- it's relatively unreliable
- it's difficult to fix, you have to send it to Apple under warranty, third party repairs are difficult or impossible, self fix is impractical for most people
With Hackintoshes you can have a solid desktop machine starting from $150 (motherboard and processor). You can easily fix it yourself by swapping out parts and get local warranty. You can upgrade and downgrade at will. You can use a much wider range of macOS versions.
Laptops are a more complicated issue and much more marginal.
I've used a Hackintosh as my daily driver for about 10 years ever since I had the misfortune of trying to get my brand new MacBook fixed by a "genius" who was actually a rude, condescending arsehole who spoke nonsense. Apple applied the trivial fix of a replacement internal cable and then held my laptop for nearly a week as a matter of policy.
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#24Help me on this. Do people really like say, macOS but not Apple hardware? Is this to lower cost? Just a hobby project? All the above? Forgive me. I've been on Linux since the 90s and don't really engage much with the Apple ecosystem. I don't mean this as a dig. I'm really ignorant on this stuff.
Apple hardware sucks for the following reasons: - it's expensive, especially if you want to load up on memory or disk space - there is limited choice - it's relatively unreliable - it's difficult to fix, you have to send it to Apple under warranty, third party repairs are difficult or impossible, self fix is impractical for most people With Hackintoshes you can have a solid desktop machine starting from $150 (motherb…
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#25Help me on this. Do people really like say, macOS but not Apple hardware? Is this to lower cost? Just a hobby project? All the above? Forgive me. I've been on Linux since the 90s and don't really engage much with the Apple ecosystem. I don't mean this as a dig. I'm really ignorant on this stuff.
Apple hardware sucks for the following reasons: - it's expensive, especially if you want to load up on memory or disk space - there is limited choice - it's relatively unreliable - it's difficult to fix, you have to send it to Apple under warranty, third party repairs are difficult or impossible, self fix is impractical for most people With Hackintoshes you can have a solid desktop machine starting from $150 (motherb…
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#26It kills me that Microsoft crippled styluses in Fall Creator's Update, and it annoys me to no end having to toggle Settings to allow my stylus to work in Macromedia Freehand (though yes, I'll admit that's better than having to run it in a penalty box).
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Last time I checked it's not like they have excess inventory. And Macs are quite viable in the corporate space - so far, in the past 10 years or so, I have been issued precisely one Windows laptop. All other machines were Macs.
Of approx 5,000 employees there are less than 20 Macs at my workplace. We're a Dell/Windows shop with Ubuntu as a popular option for devs. Outside of the tech departments staff usually get generic corporate hardware for light desktop/browser workloads.
Of course, most companies aren't going to spend on a Mac laptop; a $500 Windows laptop (or whatever) is usually good enough for many roles.
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#28Help me on this. Do people really like say, macOS but not Apple hardware? Is this to lower cost? Just a hobby project? All the above? Forgive me. I've been on Linux since the 90s and don't really engage much with the Apple ecosystem. I don't mean this as a dig. I'm really ignorant on this stuff.
I think in the mid-00s I could understand Hackintosh users to some extent. Mac hardware was (and still is) expensive, and OS X was a really nice, developer-friendly OS. But macOS has gotten more and more annoying and (IMO) developer-/power-user-hostile with every release. On the rare occasions I have to touch a Mac laptop these days, I find myself getting easily frustrated.
I think for the most part the reasons today are still due to cost. And maybe a little bit of the hacker spirit, just proving that something is possible. I would never use it, but if some folks' ideal is macOS on non-Apple hardware, and can make it work to their satisfaction, more power to them.
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#29Help me on this. Do people really like say, macOS but not Apple hardware? Is this to lower cost? Just a hobby project? All the above? Forgive me. I've been on Linux since the 90s and don't really engage much with the Apple ecosystem. I don't mean this as a dig. I'm really ignorant on this stuff.
I never really understood it either. And I'm someone who (only moderately successfully) used to run Linux on various Mac laptops. I had the opposite problem: I really really really liked Mac hardware, but was kinda meh on the OS. I think in the mid-00s I could understand Hackintosh users to some extent. Mac hardware was (and still is) expensive, and OS X was a really nice, developer-friendly OS. But macOS has gotten…
The PC equivalent, probably a 2023 Dell Optiplex 7010, for instance, looks to be just about the same amount ($449).
Compare https://www.ebay.com/itm/364218215167 with https://www.ebay.com/itm/276266965157
I think we've hit the commodity price point market with used Apple hardware.
Again, maybe I'm just too rich to care about the $50 here but I thought the Apple premium has shaken itself off at least the used market.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Apple hardware sucks for the following reasons: - it's expensive, especially if you want to load up on memory or disk space - there is limited choice - it's relatively unreliable - it's difficult to fix, you have to send it to Apple under warranty, third party repairs are difficult or impossible, self fix is impractical for most people With Hackintoshes you can have a solid desktop machine starting from $150 (motherb…
hackintoshes also support a killer feature that new Mac computers do not - nested virtualization