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Let the adventurous journey begin: Passive Income

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Re: Let the adventurous journey begin: Passive Income

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Passive income is a myth. It's the HN equivalent of an infomercial. Cue stories of the masses who had wealth rained down on them by doing very little work:

Ah, your problem is you haven't yet bought my book on passive income success.

Ah yes, that is the problem indeed. I assume it's published by RonCo?

Re: Let the adventurous journey begin: Passive Income

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At least with Adsense the payment for the same amount of clicks increase over time. And the difference between what Adsense pays is order of magnitudes bigger than what any other ad network pays; an of course is better if your visitors come from one of the hight-paying countries (USA, Canada, UK, Germany, etc)

Re: Let the adventurous journey begin: Passive Income

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Passive income is a myth. It's the HN equivalent of an infomercial. Cue stories of the masses who had wealth rained down on them by doing very little work:

I have passive income thanks to Adsense, in comparison with the average salary in USA is kind of low; but is bigger than the average salary in my country (Colombia).

And I also want to point out that nobody is talking about "wealth" around here, just about a few more bucks.

Re: Let the adventurous journey begin: Passive Income

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I guess you're employed and you're looking for some extra money. I have a boring question I'm afraid: what about taxes? How does it work in Austria?

I'm currently doing contract work for a client in the US and well yeah this is some sort of approach for getting some extra money. Right now I'm studying in Germany and the german tax law applies to me. If the extra money gets over a specific amount per month you'd have to register a traders-license (in case you're selling stuff next to your job, there's the usual income tax and if you get over a even bigger amount y…

May I ask if you registered for W-8BEN exception for the work in the US - and how much effort was getting the EIN / TIN? I am having fun with that right now

Re: Let the adventurous journey begin: Passive Income

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I've had (very) modest success at passive income ($60-100 a month) with a niche iPhone app. The nice thing about it is that it is truly passive. I haven't touched the ting in over a year (I know I should update and improve on it but I lost interest in it pretty quickly).

Re: Let the adventurous journey begin: Passive Income

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Hi Patrick, Good luck. I've been doing app dev since Jan of this year. I blogged about the profits I experienced in the first few months here: [ http://burnsmod.com/business/2012/04/23/My-First-2-Months:-A... ] What you have right, in my opinion: - you have low expectations to start - you haven't quit your job - none of your plans sound crazy - of your proposed ideas, writing wordpress themes is probably the most pot…

> Blogging for ad revenue is not going to be very > successful unless you start a porn blog.

I have a successful porn blog but have not monetized it. How can I do that? Which ad networks will provide me with the most revenue? Any advice would be very much appreciated...I've been mulling this question for a while but don't know much about ad networks outside of AdSense.

Re: Let the adventurous journey begin: Passive Income

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Passive income is a myth. It's the HN equivalent of an infomercial. Cue stories of the masses who had wealth rained down on them by doing very little work:

I don't see passive income like that. I see passive income as something you can gain by spending some of your free time to get recurring money.

That seems less "passive" than just "small". But then again, as the poster noted, there are many ways to define passive income.

Re: Let the adventurous journey begin: Passive Income

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Hi Patrick, Good luck. I've been doing app dev since Jan of this year. I blogged about the profits I experienced in the first few months here: [ http://burnsmod.com/business/2012/04/23/My-First-2-Months:-A... ] What you have right, in my opinion: - you have low expectations to start - you haven't quit your job - none of your plans sound crazy - of your proposed ideas, writing wordpress themes is probably the most pot…

hey, thank you for your this comment. Regarding the point that based on your experience passive income means constant work: Yes, I agree with you, passive income is constant work, my target will be to reduce this constant work to a minimum (e.g. a maximum of 2-4 hours per week) and optimize the revenue with the least work. I'm curious whether there are good strategies for doing that otherwise this will just be an empirical experiment :)

Re: Let the adventurous journey begin: Passive Income

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Hi Patrick, Good luck. I've been doing app dev since Jan of this year. I blogged about the profits I experienced in the first few months here: [ http://burnsmod.com/business/2012/04/23/My-First-2-Months:-A... ] What you have right, in my opinion: - you have low expectations to start - you haven't quit your job - none of your plans sound crazy - of your proposed ideas, writing wordpress themes is probably the most pot…

> Blogging for ad revenue is not going to be very > successful unless you start a porn blog. I have a successful porn blog but have not monetized it. How can I do that? Which ad networks will provide me with the most revenue? Any advice would be very much appreciated...I've been mulling this question for a while but don't know much about ad networks outside of AdSense.

When I did this for about 2 months in college (before meeting my wife and deciding to exit the 'seedy' business) I made about $2000 if I remember correctly.

The money is in affiliate networks that pay you a fee for signup/purchases. Fleshlight was about 70% of my revenue, and paysite affiliate networks was the rest.

I was hosting my blog on blogger at the time so I just integrated banner ads into the template and submitted my links to FARK at the time for views.

Re: Let the adventurous journey begin: Passive Income

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Passive income is a myth. It's the HN equivalent of an infomercial. Cue stories of the masses who had wealth rained down on them by doing very little work:

It isn't a myth, its just poorly defined.

I've had adsense sites making a few hundred $ a month since 2005. Its hands off to the point I don't even know what they made until I get the 1099 from Google each year.

However every (or nearly every) business that makes money truly passively is an under performer. They are like boats without captains that have not sunk yet. Those same sites, along with the A list domains some are on should be earning $200k+ a year by now.

In that sense, I would define passive income as doing a terrible job on a stellar business model.

Of course, there are also businesses employees or partners can run. Those absolutely can be done. I have one project like that right now. But, just like a dividend paying stock or bond, you are going to have to put in a serious asset to minimize the chance of the people running the show from fleeing.

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