Live data from Hacker News

'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

english.elpais.com

21–30 of 170 posts

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

#21
post #16

Tangential: I remember reading a criticism about the South Park ginger episode leading to redheads getting bullied. I was curious (and still haven't wrapped my head around) what blame can be placed, if any. 1. Shitty people had latent bullying and cruelty instincts and South Park gave them the idea of diverting that to redheads 2. People were just chilling until South Park taught them to be cruel and bully gingers

[deleted]

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

#22
post #2

I can understand how he feels. But haters gonna hate, criminals gonna crime. He threw some new thoughts into the world, he made people think. surely he did not demagnetize people's moral compasses. It reeks of illusions of grandeur. Sure it is a nice piece, but he overestimates the influence imho. Similar to William Gibson thinking he is the father of things Steam Punk ever. Edit: Indeed I meant cyber punk.

>> Similar to William Gibson thinking he is the father of things Steam Punk ever.

Great observation! Being a popular part of a zeitgeist is not the same as defining it.

I have to wonder if, and the article does hint at, "if the movie was never made..."

FTA: Burgess introduced a character “with a beard like Stanley Kubrick’s” who played Singin’ in the Rain with a trumpet — before being kicked off the stage.

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

#23
post #8

I feel like the moment you put any idea out there you have the potential to influence people unexpectedly, and be at peace with that. I saw a youtube interview of an addict who said he started taking painkillers regularly because he saw House doing it. Surely the writers didn’t know they were setting up some kid in suburban America up for addiction by giving him that mannerism

> Surely the writers didn’t know they were setting up some kid in suburban America up for addiction

Ya think? I disagree. It was product placement at the time. Now, it's hard not to call it outright drug pushing.

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

#24
post #8

I feel like the moment you put any idea out there you have the potential to influence people unexpectedly, and be at peace with that. I saw a youtube interview of an addict who said he started taking painkillers regularly because he saw House doing it. Surely the writers didn’t know they were setting up some kid in suburban America up for addiction by giving him that mannerism

> Surely the writers didn’t know they were setting up some kid in suburban America up for addiction Ya think? I disagree. It was product placement at the time . Now, it's hard not to call it outright drug pushing.

I think it was primarily an homage to Sherlock Holmes on whom the character is largely based, modern cultural context aside.

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

#25
post #8

I feel like the moment you put any idea out there you have the potential to influence people unexpectedly, and be at peace with that. I saw a youtube interview of an addict who said he started taking painkillers regularly because he saw House doing it. Surely the writers didn’t know they were setting up some kid in suburban America up for addiction by giving him that mannerism

Always seemed odd to me that House was even able to think clearly while high all the time, much less do his job at such a high level.

There are a lot of highly functional opioid addicts out there. You would be surprised to find out what some of the people you work with are taking.

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

#26
post #8

I feel like the moment you put any idea out there you have the potential to influence people unexpectedly, and be at peace with that. I saw a youtube interview of an addict who said he started taking painkillers regularly because he saw House doing it. Surely the writers didn’t know they were setting up some kid in suburban America up for addiction by giving him that mannerism

> Surely the writers didn’t know they were setting up some kid in suburban America up for addiction Ya think? I disagree. It was product placement at the time . Now, it's hard not to call it outright drug pushing.

House was at least in part based on Sherlock Holmes who infamously had his 7% Cocaine solution. It's not entirely unreasonable to think the writers of House would update that to be pills.

Not everything is some vast conspiracy...

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

#27
post #8

I feel like the moment you put any idea out there you have the potential to influence people unexpectedly, and be at peace with that. I saw a youtube interview of an addict who said he started taking painkillers regularly because he saw House doing it. Surely the writers didn’t know they were setting up some kid in suburban America up for addiction by giving him that mannerism

... or, ya know, convenient excuse?

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

#28
post #8

I feel like the moment you put any idea out there you have the potential to influence people unexpectedly, and be at peace with that. I saw a youtube interview of an addict who said he started taking painkillers regularly because he saw House doing it. Surely the writers didn’t know they were setting up some kid in suburban America up for addiction by giving him that mannerism

Always seemed odd to me that House was even able to think clearly while high all the time, much less do his job at such a high level.

Like it's said in Star Trek: First you take the drugs to feel good, then you take them to not feel bad.

You get used to the effects. House wasn't high. He was just addicted.

Re: 'I should not have written 'A Clockwork Orange''

#30
post #16

Tangential: I remember reading a criticism about the South Park ginger episode leading to redheads getting bullied. I was curious (and still haven't wrapped my head around) what blame can be placed, if any. 1. Shitty people had latent bullying and cruelty instincts and South Park gave them the idea of diverting that to redheads 2. People were just chilling until South Park taught them to be cruel and bully gingers

I wouldn't place the blame on South Park. Kids are cruel. If they didn't pick up on the ginger joke, they would latch on to somebody else for some other innocuous reason.
Post reply on HN