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Man raped in jail after AI technology wrongfully identifies him in robbery

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Re: Man raped in jail after AI technology wrongfully identifies him in robbery

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Yup, I'd love to know the name of that wonderful software and the company that made it. Also I'd love to know the names of the judge, prosecutor, and investigator who put a man in jail simply because a man from the store told them to.

There's not really any need. The judge did it because the prosecution said he did. The prosecution brought charges because the police said it was him. The police arrested him because the corporation said it was him. The corporation said it was him because the software said it was him. The software said it was him because it was SHIT.

I feel like the software did its job.

It reported a 90% chance that this was not the suspect when asked to compare photos. Yet the company decided 10% possibility of being correct was good enough for them to report to the police that it’s definitely this guy.

Re: Man raped in jail after AI technology wrongfully identifies him in robbery

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup, I'd love to know the name of that wonderful software and the company that made it. Also I'd love to know the names of the judge, prosecutor, and investigator who put a man in jail simply because a man from the store told them to.

There's not really any need. The judge did it because the prosecution said he did. The prosecution brought charges because the police said it was him. The police arrested him because the corporation said it was him. The corporation said it was him because the software said it was him. The software said it was him because it was SHIT.

>There's not really any need.

No, there is a need.

We know what happened and why.

We also need to know who all these people were, because all of them failed at their jobs.

The last person in the chain using a shitty tool doesn't excuse anyone else. The store employee could've consulted astrological charts FFS, the use astrology wouldn't be the problem in this scenario.

Re: Man raped in jail after AI technology wrongfully identifies him in robbery

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How many more cases where data and AI people messed up? This is on us as a professional community of people who build the future. Is this the future we want? We seem to actively work towards it.

As many as necessary. Late stage capitalism has entered its paperclip maximizer phase - AI will pervade everything, everywhere all the time and we will simply learn (or more likely be trained) to accept the failures as the necessary price we must pay for efficient markets.

Is this the future we want? For many people, the answer is a clear no. But like the Luddites of generations before (who were right about everything) we are not the ones who get to decide what the future will be. Maybe there's still time to go be a potato farmer in Idaho or something.

Re: Man raped in jail after AI technology wrongfully identifies him in robbery

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's not really any need. The judge did it because the prosecution said he did. The prosecution brought charges because the police said it was him. The police arrested him because the corporation said it was him. The corporation said it was him because the software said it was him. The software said it was him because it was SHIT.

>There's not really any need. No, there is a need. We know what happened and why. We also need to know who all these people were, because all of them failed at their jobs . The last person in the chain using a shitty tool doesn't excuse anyone else. The store employee could've consulted astrological charts FFS, the use astrology wouldn't be the problem in this scenario.

People must be seeing different reporting than I am.

Because otherwise it looks like some people are reacting to a headline and a vague statement (possibly morphed through the telephone game of reporting) claiming how one piece of how the outcome happened, and are ready to extrapolate from that, and be judge, jury, and executioner.

Which would seem ironic: making much the same error themselves that they believe they're correcting in someone else.

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