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Re: The Broadway Windowing System

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Post by pests » Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 6:36 AM UTC

boomskats wrote: post #16

purpleidea wrote: post #14

I remember when Alex Larsson announced this as a POC. I tried it out, it was pretty neat and worked well. I was always sad it kind of languished or didn't get any attention after that. So I'm curious, is it back with a vengeance? Are people working on this? See here from 2010: https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2010/11/23/gtk3-vs-html5/ More here in GTK4: https://blogs.gnome.org/alexl/2019/03/29/broadway-adventures...

I'd be interested to know this too but I'm not hopeful. I imagine it's up here because it was mentioned in the discussion on the New renderers for GTK[0] post a couple of days ago. [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39172377

Around and around we go.

Re: The Broadway Windowing System

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Post by nsonha » Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 7:24 AM UTC

zamadatix wrote: post #19

nsonha wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

can a VNC client acts as an additional display?

The VNC client can display whatever the server sends it. Doesn't even have to actually be images of a desktop at all.

The question should've been "can a vnc SERVER serves as a virtual display?".

On that, I found https://github.com/kbumsik/VirtScreen

Re: The Broadway Windowing System

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Post by junon » Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 9:05 AM UTC

Love Broadway, use it on WSL1 with QEMU.

Re: The Broadway Windowing System

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Post by HeckFeck » Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 10:35 AM UTC

em3rgent0rdr wrote: post #3

Apparently was around back in 1997 (but via a browser plug-in): https://web.archive.org/web/19970707154444/http://www.opengr...

> X11R6.3 just may be the most powerful innovation ever introduced to the World Wide Web.

Now there's a quote for the ages.

Re: The Broadway Windowing System

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Post by prmoustache » Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 11:14 AM UTC

Can you recursively run gnome web / epiphany on itself using broadway until you run out of port numbers or memory?

Re: The Broadway Windowing System

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Post by prmoustache » Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 11:20 AM UTC

prmoustache wrote: post #25

Can you recursively run gnome web / epiphany on itself using broadway until you run out of port numbers or memory?

replying to myself. Nope, because broadway doesn't support OpenGL apparently:

* (epiphany:13774): WARNING *: 12:18:59.172: Disabled hardware acceleration because GTK failed to initialize GL: The current backend does not support OpenGL.

Re: The Broadway Windowing System

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Post by worksonmine » Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 12:22 PM UTC

We've come full circle. Web apps wrapped in Electron as native apps and native apps run in the browser.

Re: The Broadway Windowing System

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Post by extraduder_ire » Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 12:57 PM UTC

hollerith wrote: post #20

When I tried it, I couldn't figure out how to make it non-blurry.

Make sure the resolutions match, maybe. Either by fullscreening the browser window, or resizing it down to match the resolution that's getting sent.

It might be bugged and change the sent resolution when you do this though. (based on my limited experience with x11 forwarding)

Re: The Broadway Windowing System

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Post by lizknope » Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 2:06 PM UTC

em3rgent0rdr wrote: post #3

Apparently was around back in 1997 (but via a browser plug-in): https://web.archive.org/web/19970707154444/http://www.opengr...

That's immediately what I thought of too

Re: The Broadway Windowing System

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Post by mozball » Wed, Jan 31, 2024, 4:03 PM UTC

It says "using HTML5 and web sockets." Does this mean the application freezes if the connection to server is disrupted?

Could developers use this to make web-based apps along-side desktop clients? If so , Desktop frameworks like GTK and Qt should focus on this idea more to reclaim the desktop from the monstrosity that is Electron.