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Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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Brave"s support of Manifest V3 is totally dependent on Google and Chrome >Brave will support uBO and uMatrix so long as Google doesn’t remove underlying V2 code paths (which seem to be needed for Chrome for enterprise support, so should stay in the Chromium open source) https://twitter.com/BrendanEich/status/1534893414579249152

Yeah, but the Brave adblocker is built-in, it's not an extension.

There are more extensions than just ad blockers

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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If you want to run Mixtral 8x7B locally you can use llama.cpp (including with any of the supporting libraries/interfaces such as text-generation-webui) with https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/Nous-Hermes-2-Mixtral-8x7B-S... . The smallest quantized version (2bit) needs 20GB of RAM (which can be offloaded onto the VRAM of a decent 4090 GPU). The 4bit quantized versions are the largest models that can just about fit onto…

I prefer koboldcpp over llama.cpp. It’s easy to spilt between gpu/cpu on models larger than VRAM

I've got an aging 2080Ti and Ryzen 3800X with 96GB RAM, any point in trying to mess with the GPU or?

Haven't really been able to justify upgrading to a 4090 or similar given I play so few new games these days.

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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What are good API providers that serve mixtral? I know only octo ai which seems decent but will be good to know alternatives too

openrouter, fireworks, together.

we use openrouter but have had some inconsistency with speed. i hear fireworks is faster, swapping it out soon.

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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Why not normal RAM? Ryzen 5600 with 128GB DDR4 is perfectly fine to run mixtral 8bit, and costs less than $1000. GPUs are only needed if you can not wait 5 minutes for an answer, or for training.

Or if you want multiple sessions at the same time. Or if you want to do anything else with your machine while it's running. But realistically, 5 minutes is too long. It should be conversational, and for that you need at least 5 tokens per second. Which your Ryzen just can't do.

>It should be conversational, and for that you need at least 5 tokens per second.

To be fair, a lot of people are using this for non-interactive work, like batching document analysis or offline processing of user generated content.

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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What are good API providers that serve mixtral? I know only octo ai which seems decent but will be good to know alternatives too

OpenRouter is generally a good option (already mentioned), the best part is that you have a unified API for all LLMs, and the pricing is the same as with the providers themselves. Although for OpenAI/Anthropic models they were forced (by the respective companies) to enable filtering for inputs/outputs.

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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If you want to run Mixtral 8x7B locally you can use llama.cpp (including with any of the supporting libraries/interfaces such as text-generation-webui) with https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/Nous-Hermes-2-Mixtral-8x7B-S... . The smallest quantized version (2bit) needs 20GB of RAM (which can be offloaded onto the VRAM of a decent 4090 GPU). The 4bit quantized versions are the largest models that can just about fit onto…

Dumb question, but how can a 32 bit number be converted to 2 bits and still be useful? It seems like magic.

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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If you want to run Mixtral 8x7B locally you can use llama.cpp (including with any of the supporting libraries/interfaces such as text-generation-webui) with https://huggingface.co/TheBloke/Nous-Hermes-2-Mixtral-8x7B-S... . The smallest quantized version (2bit) needs 20GB of RAM (which can be offloaded onto the VRAM of a decent 4090 GPU). The 4bit quantized versions are the largest models that can just about fit onto…

Dumb question, but how can a 32 bit number be converted to 2 bits and still be useful? It seems like magic.

All the 32 bits weren't necessarily used, and it's the whole network itself that has to be useful. It's a tradeoff. We started with very good precision to test the new method, now we can optimize some parts of it

Re: Brave Leo now uses Mixtral 8x7B as default

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It's nice using Brave because you have Chromium's better performance, without having to worry about Manifest V2 dying and taking adblocking down with it. I have uBlock Origin enabled, but it has barely caught anything that slipped past the browser filters.

Is this submarine comment?

What is the definition of a submarine comment? Google fails and ChatGPT says:

> A "submarine comment" on social media refers to a comment that is made on an old post or thread, long after the conversation has died down. This term derives from the idea of a submarine which remains submerged and out of sight for long periods before suddenly surfacing. In the context of social media, it's when someone delves deep into someone else's posts or timeline, finds an old post, and leaves a comment, bringing the old post back to attention. This can sometimes surprise the original poster and other participants, as the conversation was thought to have been concluded.

Which doesn’t make sense in this context

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