editorialized title. this reads like "the LTSE is shutting down" whereas its basically LTSE getting out of their cap table business confusingly called "LTSE Equity", presumably following the Carta drama of a few weeks ago. core LTSE business is fine. it's also noteworthy that their chairman/founder Eric Reis is now also cofounder of Answer.ai, so perhaps his personal focus is shifting a bit? idk, probably reading too…
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LTSE shutters cap table management business (formerly captable.io)
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Re: LTSE shutters cap table management business (formerly captable.io)
#22So, what happens if I have shares in there from a previous company? Would my account be automatically migrated to the new provider? Do I have to contact the company ? :(
> what happens if I have shares in there from a previous company? You never had shares “there.” You have shares. They recorded that fact. Contrast this with buying Apple stock through Fidelity. Legally, Fidelity owns the stock [1]. (Well, technically probably not [2].) You properly own your stock “through” Fidelity. Private cap tables are different. The cap table is what the investors and company say it is. To avoid…
That is to say, none of what you said is wrong but it’s not peculiar to private shares. Public shares are directly analogous.
Fidelity isn’t a great example as it’s likely too big to fail, but even if they did go under it would mean systematic collapse of the western equities markets. That said philosophically Fidelity failing _doesnt_ impact your legal claims precisely because Cede & DTC exist.
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#24Welp, there goes another SaaS platform in our corporate ops toolchain. Anyone have a recommendation for a tool to handle the cap table for an early-stage cooperative with several hundred members that won’t cost us an arm and a leg? Excel?
It seems like there's a gap to be filled between the recent Carta issues and now this.
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#26editorialized title. this reads like "the LTSE is shutting down" whereas its basically LTSE getting out of their cap table business confusingly called "LTSE Equity", presumably following the Carta drama of a few weeks ago. core LTSE business is fine. it's also noteworthy that their chairman/founder Eric Reis is now also cofounder of Answer.ai, so perhaps his personal focus is shifting a bit? idk, probably reading too…
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
> what happens if I have shares in there from a previous company? You never had shares “there.” You have shares. They recorded that fact. Contrast this with buying Apple stock through Fidelity. Legally, Fidelity owns the stock [1]. (Well, technically probably not [2].) You properly own your stock “through” Fidelity. Private cap tables are different. The cap table is what the investors and company say it is. To avoid…
Not all shares are owned street side by Cede. Almost certainly most founder shares are directly listed with a transfer agent (in the west probably at Computershare). That is to say, none of what you said is wrong but it’s not peculiar to private shares. Public shares are directly analogous. Fidelity isn’t a great example as it’s likely too big to fail, but even if they did go under it would mean systematic collapse o…
Most publicly-traded shares are held in street name. (Most but not all of those are with Cede & Co, but again, that's a technicality.) There is no common analog for street-name holding in the private markets. (Idiots keep trying to create it.)
> most founder shares are directly listed with a transfer agent (in the west probably at Computershare)
Yes, if you're a founder, "holding" shares on Carta is similar to "holding" shares that are publicly traded. I'm assuming someone asking this question isn't the founder.
> philosophically Fidelity failing _doesnt_ impact your legal claims precisely because Cede & DTC exist
There is no philosophy. Legally, if Fidelity fails, you have a claim on Fidelity and the SIPC. They have claims on Cede & Co. But in a very real sense, you "hold" your shares there.
Practically, Fidelity is unlikely to fail for a host of reasons. Maybe a less incendiary example is this: if Fidelity wants to freeze your shares, they can freeze your shares. They control them. If LTSE...E wants to freeze your shares, the company can overrule them. LTSEE isn't a "golden source." Put another way, Carta != EquityZen. (Though I think they also launched an SPV product?)
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#29editorialized title. this reads like "the LTSE is shutting down" whereas its basically LTSE getting out of their cap table business confusingly called "LTSE Equity", presumably following the Carta drama of a few weeks ago. core LTSE business is fine. it's also noteworthy that their chairman/founder Eric Reis is now also cofounder of Answer.ai, so perhaps his personal focus is shifting a bit? idk, probably reading too…
The sell-off of captable.io/LTSE Equity was announced to customers a couple months ago, predating the Carta drama (but many folks picked LTSE specifically because it wasn't Carta).
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#30As a customer I need to figure out whether I want to opt in, by January 31st at the latest.
Luckily, there is an Astrella demo webinar every week ! (And the next one is... on January 31st in the evening).
I would call this a short deadline.