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Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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Next time you see a jumping spider, interact with it. Try to coax it to you with slow repetitive movements. Get close to it. Tap and wiggle your fingers gently. You'll likely find that they come to you. They seem to be curious on a different level than any other spider that I've interacted with (which are all garden-variety spiders in north america). They do tend to freak out if you try to take their picture with a m…

They're one of the only insects that show hunting behavior, as in pattern recognition and path planning [1], with brains so large that their esophagus has to go through it, to fit, with one of the largest brain to body rations of any animal. And, they dance [2]! Easily my favorite little critter. 1. https://roundglasssustain.com/species/portia-spiders 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qkzwG2lLPc

“He must mesmerize… or die!”

Crazy video thanks for that.

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...beautiful science: people spending a career on things like "how to surprise a [spider-eating, jumping] spider"

apropos of nothing to do with leaping arachnids -- if you do delight in the absurdity of specialties academics can find themselves in, check out the short novel Irregular Portuguese Verbs by Alexander McCall Smith

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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I had a pet jumper in my first apartment. He would follow me and my wife from room to room, wave at us, and sit by the sink when he was thirsty. We gave him water and called him Steve.

There's a reasonable pet trade for them. I never had the heart to put one in a box though.

The most interesting interaction I had was watching one hunt a fly. The fly landed, and it crawled down on the side of the board the fly was on, out of sight. It emerged behind the fly, then snuck up on it, similar to how a cat does (move, pause, move, pause). Then, when it attacked, it didn't jump at the fly, but jumped up in the air where the fly would be. It grabbed onto the flys back, then rotated, so the spider landed on its back, so the flys legs would be straight up, so it couldn't try to crawl away. It bit its neck area, waited a bit, then dragged it away. Really amazing, especially considering the fly was about the same size as the spider's body.

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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This is really interesting research. It’s fascinating to hear about how these experiments are designed in the first place.

If anyone is interested in this topic, I highly, highly recommend the book “Ways of Being” by James Bridle. [0]

It covers such a diverse range of ideas about intelligence, including neural network–style intelligences, that I think pretty much everyone would find something of interest.

One of the takeaways is that these intelligence-seeking experiments have been poorly designed for so long, that they tend to reveal way more about the humans running the experiment than the animals being researched. And part of that is due to how uncomfortable we are with admitting that animals have completely different (not better or worse) ways of being and thinking than us.

It makes you aware of the limitations of our hierarchy-and-comparison-based concepts. For example, even a simple phrase from this article:

> Although spiders can’t literally count one-two-three, the research suggests some jumping spiders have a sense of numbers roughly equivalent to that of 1-year-old humans.

The experiment doesn’t really prove that spiders can’t count, and surely if they did count it wouldn’t be by speaking out loud like we do. Saying that their faculties are equivalent to 1-year olds only really serves to diminish them. Not that I’m blaming the author, it’s just so easy to accidentally slip into these very limited ways of thinking.

[0]: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/58772732

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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One of the craziest things to me when looking at a jumping spider is the unbelievable size and mass difference between us. An 80kg person is ~6,000,000x heavier than the average jumping spider. Whereas a blue whale is only like 2,000-3,000x heavier than that 80kg person (if I'm doing my math right).

They are obviously tiny, but I wouldn't have imagined what titans we must be from their perspective.

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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Next time you see a jumping spider, interact with it. Try to coax it to you with slow repetitive movements. Get close to it. Tap and wiggle your fingers gently. You'll likely find that they come to you. They seem to be curious on a different level than any other spider that I've interacted with (which are all garden-variety spiders in north america). They do tend to freak out if you try to take their picture with a m…

They're one of the only insects that show hunting behavior, as in pattern recognition and path planning [1], with brains so large that their esophagus has to go through it, to fit, with one of the largest brain to body rations of any animal. And, they dance [2]! Easily my favorite little critter. 1. https://roundglasssustain.com/species/portia-spiders 2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qkzwG2lLPc

> They're one of the only insects

They're not insects at all. They're spiders.

Edit: Here's an evolutionary tree: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthropod#Evolutionary_history.... Insects are a group under "Hexapods", and are more closely related to crabs, lobsters, shrimp, centipedes, and millipedes (none of which are insects) than they are to spiders, which are under "Chelicerates".

Re: Researchers find signs of intelligence among jumping spiders

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The more I learn about various living beings around us, the more I'm convinced that they are all unique, individual people, with unique opinions and desires. They have unique DNA and unique personalities.

If you've ever spent an extended period of time with any animal, you know that they all have different personalities and opinions that differ from other animals of the same species, eerily similar to humans. They truly are different people. Some are shy. Some are gregarious. Some are brave. Some are lazy. Some are dumb. Some are mean. They're all different.

I don't really know how to reconcile this feeling and I'm very much an omnivore but the thought is inescapable to me.

In order for you to keep living, something with a unique personality, opinions, and desires has to die. And that includes plants.

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