There is already another submission on the front page, one that actually uses the original source and have hundreds of comments.
Why do we need another? Can we get these merged?
Artists can poison their pics with deadly Nightshade to deter AI scrapers
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#22I’ve asked an artist if artists should be worried about the newest generative AI capabilities. This is his (translated) response:
> Artists? Pencil laborers, more like.. I am in favor of using AI in visuals. It will eliminate a lot of mere decorators, and won’t even slightly affect the artists. I hope AI as a technology has the same effect on the world of ART as the invention of photography had: it got rid of a lot of empty landscape copiers. Impressionism was born shortly after that. See, I believe many cursed photography, but Monet never saw it as a problem.
Re: Artists can poison their pics with deadly Nightshade to deter AI scrapers
#23Any AI art/video/photography/music/text/etc generator company whose generates revenue needs to add watermarks to let the public know its AI generated(it's embedded with metadata specific to each company). This should be forced via legislation in all countries. If they don't then whatever social network or other services where things can shared/viewed by large groups to millions & are posted publicly need to be labele…
Yeah, no as another commenter said if AI spam is the downfall of twitter tik tok and facebook that will be a net benefit for all of society and the internet. The amount of misinformation and garbage ragebait I see my older relatives consuming on those sites is astounding.
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#24Can someone explain how this differs from Glaze, which is apparently "defensive" while Nightshade is "offensive"? Their goals sound the same to me, maybe I missed something.
Based on their marketing, Glaze is “defensive” because it prevents training a model to have a coherent idea of what your style is, preventing people from generating art “in the style of andai”. Nightshade doesn’t protect you, but it behaves as “wrong” training data and makes it harder to train models in general. (I don’t claim that any of this works as advertised though.)
Re: Artists can poison their pics with deadly Nightshade to deter AI scrapers
#25I’ve asked an artist if artists should be worried about the newest generative AI capabilities. This is his (translated) response: > Artists? Pencil laborers, more like.. I am in favor of using AI in visuals. It will eliminate a lot of mere decorators, and won’t even slightly affect the artists. I hope AI as a technology has the same effect on the world of ART as the invention of photography had: it got rid of a lot o…
This. It’s no different than the impact word processors had on typists. The idea that low-level sign painting is “art” is silly.
And to the extent AI encroaches on “real”, it just enables artists to operate at a higher level, much like word processors allow authors to focus on craft rather than typing.
Re: Artists can poison their pics with deadly Nightshade to deter AI scrapers
#26I’ve asked an artist if artists should be worried about the newest generative AI capabilities. This is his (translated) response: > Artists? Pencil laborers, more like.. I am in favor of using AI in visuals. It will eliminate a lot of mere decorators, and won’t even slightly affect the artists. I hope AI as a technology has the same effect on the world of ART as the invention of photography had: it got rid of a lot o…
This is an extremely elitist take.
Obviously you're never worried about AI/Computers/Immigrants (underline your "reason" of choice) if you're in the top 1% of your field. It's like people who developed a bunch of their own libraries and then worked as a google Architect for 10 years giving everyone else advice on job hunting.
From a utilitarian point of view, I see his reason for saying it (not a great loss for society if the bottom 50% of some industry falls out), but it's still a very privileged take (some would even say tone-deaf)
Re: Artists can poison their pics with deadly Nightshade to deter AI scrapers
#27I’ve asked an artist if artists should be worried about the newest generative AI capabilities. This is his (translated) response: > Artists? Pencil laborers, more like.. I am in favor of using AI in visuals. It will eliminate a lot of mere decorators, and won’t even slightly affect the artists. I hope AI as a technology has the same effect on the world of ART as the invention of photography had: it got rid of a lot o…
This is an extremely elitist take. Obviously you're never worried about AI/Computers/Immigrants (underline your "reason" of choice) if you're in the top 1% of your field. It's like people who developed a bunch of their own libraries and then worked as a google Architect for 10 years giving everyone else advice on job hunting. From a utilitarian point of view, I see his reason for saying it (not a great loss for socie…
Van Gogh, Manet, Gauguin would beg to differ! Being a true artist doesn’t imply being in the top 1%, having privilege or any economical reward at all.
…and that won’t change with AI as well, there will always be artists who will be recognized as great only after their death.